2022 trek allant 8s review

Review: Trek Allant+ 8S is a sharp urban commuter e-bike

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Commuter e-bikes tend to come in two varieties, the laid-back casual cruisers, and those ready to whip through the city streets with speed. The Trek Allant+ falls into the latter group, with handling that’s sharp to a fault, with options to suit any type of commuter cyclist.

We spent a few weeks rolling around town, hitting the market, and exploring neighborhoods to see how the Allant+ 8S handled everything from bike paths to city streets…

Trek Allant+ 8S tech details

The Allant+ e-bike line debuted in September 2019 and now has four models, the 7, 7S, 8S and 9S, with standard and step-thru frame options. The 7-series ($3,750) uses a 20mph max-assist Bosch Performance Line motor and has a lower step-thru design.

The 7S/8S/9S ($4,049 to $6,349) use the faster 28mph Bosch Performance Speed motors (for North America, anyway) and have a “Stagger” step-thru frame design that’s not quite as low, but should still work for most any rider.

The Trek Allant+ 8S uses a Bosch head unit housed inside a custom COBI mount. This gives you the option of using their small LCD screen for essential metrics like battery life, speed, distance, etc. Or, mount your phone and run the COBI app to get more data and run mapping, calls, music controls, and more through that app.

The computer/mount sits above a 500 Lumen headlight, which is bright enough for general riding. A small bell on the right sits in stark analog contrast to the multi-function, multi-button remote for the drive system. It cycles data on both the built-in screen and on the app, when connected.

The tangle of wires is somehow not so obnoxious despite having five different lines running from the cockpit to the headtube, where everything gets funneled into the frame for an overall very clean look. I like that the shaping extends from the top tube in to the headtube and mimics Trek’s high end carbon road bikes.

The hydroformed alloy frames are beautiful, and the satiny gray paint on our test bike was a perfectly understated yet premium color for an urban commuter. The only part of the bike that seemed slightly off was the gap at the front of the battery cover.

The bike comes with Bontrager’s wire-bead HardCase Lite 27.5×2.4″ tires, which are not tubeless ready. But the rims are should you want to make the switch down the road.

Trek’s Allant+ models are compatible with an external Bosch 500Wh battery, which complements the 625Wh integrated battery on the “S” models. This nearly doubles the range, and Trek claims you could get up to 100 miles per charge when adding the booster battery (sold separately). And this explains why the Stagger models use a slightly taller “top tube”…so that the extra battery still fits underneath it.

The auxiliary battery mounts to the three bolts on the downtube. But, fortunately, hiding under my Abus Bordo folding lock are two standard water bottle cage mounts, and a third set of bolts sits under the top tube. So, you can still run two bottles even if you’re using the extra power pack.

The 8S comes with a Shimano Deore 10speed group and hydraulic disc brakes. Alloy cranks and full-size chainguard around the chainrings kept my shoelaces and pant legs from getting eaten.

All models come with full coverage fenders, but the 8S/9S upgrade to better, all-alloy version with low-slung rear rack that’s perfect for side-mounted pannier bags. If you’re looking to run a standard rack bag “trunk” on the top, the 7/7S models have a more traditional looking rack that sits above the fender.

All models have an integrated taillight, and this one has a constant-on with an intermittent flash to catch attention, and it turns on when you turn on the bike. I’ll add that the fenders on this bike were rock solid.

The hydroformed tubes not only looked good, they also make for a very stiff, strong frame. Fork included…which is one of the odd spec choices here.

The 7S comes with a suspension fork, the 8S and 9S do not…but, the 9S is full carbon fiber, frame and fork. Personally, I’d put a suspension fork on all of them, and you’re about to find out why…

Trek Allant+ 8S ride review

For a rider like me who enjoys the ride but also just wants to get where I’m going (because A. fast is fun, and B. I got stuff to do), the Trek Allant+ S models are perfectly quick.

I’ve said before and probably will say it for every e-bike I review: If you’re a “cyclist” then you absolutely want to spend the extra to get a Class 3 (28mph max assist) model, especially for road/gravel/city. Anything less will leave you disappointed no matter how great the bike is otherwise.

The Allant+ has no problem getting up to speed or keeping up with downtown traffic, and that’s exactly the way it should be if you’re riding in the city. Bosch’s Performance Speed systems are great and have been for years, nothing new here.

Despite my XL test bike’s tall looks, it feels like the center of gravity is low. Which makes sense considering the motor and battery are down at the bottom of the bike.

Unlike most eMTBs, this one sticks with regular length cranks – 170mm on the Medium, and 175mm on the Large and XL. There are no Small frame sizes for these, but the Stagger step-thru models come in S/M/L.

Even if you don’t use the COBI app, which I chose not to, the holster is a great spot for your smartphone. It’s a universal design that easily held an iPhone Plus with case.

The Trek Allant+ is the snappiest handling e-bike I’ve ridden. The geometry and fork rake/offset combine to give the bike very quick handling.

When diving into a corner, the bike wants to dive harder and harder the more your turn the handlebar. At low speeds, like when navigating tight spaces or turning a sharp corner, this means the bike will change directions quickly. But it can also feel like the wheel wants to flop into the turn a bit and, occasionally, corner a little harder than you may have planned.

This is definitely a LOW speed phenomenon as you’re unlikely to turn that hard at speed, but something I wanted to mention. Because, that precise, snappy low speed handling comes at the expense of high speed stability if you’re the type of person that likes to ride with their hands off the bars .

I emphasize that because under normal riding, it’s fine, and feels great at speed. But if you like to sit up and cruise hands free, or just loosely keep one hand on while chatting with friends, the Allant+ won’t hold a line as well as some other bikes. All of which underlines my impression that this bike is built for speed.

So, about that fork and frame. The Allant+ frame is very stiff. To compensate, I lowered the tire pressure a bit more than normal to cushion the ride.

Which only amplified the low-speed steering as the meaty 2.4″ tires planted a firm patch of rubber on the ground and grabbed hard.

Overall, I really like this bike. For the price it’s extremely well equipped. But, dollar for dollar, I’d rather see them put a suspension fork on it than the COBI system as I think it would add more overall enjoyment for most riders.

Properly inflated tires will give this bike a harsh ride, which isn’t just a comfort thing – hit a pothole when you’re not paying attention and it can jar your hands and arms enough to throw them off a bit, which could cause you to wreck. A suspension fork, even a reasonably affordable one, solves this and would likely make this bike one of the best, and best looking, “fast commuters” I’ve tested. Buy Now at Trek Bikes

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Tyler Benedict is the Founder of Bikerumor.com . He has been writing about the latest bikes, components, and cycling technology for almost two decades. Prior to that, Tyler launched and built multiple sports nutrition brands and consumer goods companies, mostly as an excuse to travel to killer riding locations throughout North America.

Based in North Carolina, Tyler loves family adventure travel and is always on the lookout for the next shiny new part to make his bikes faster and lighter.

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The phone holder is a poor design . Easy to knock phone out and off. Installed a ram phone holder. Much better

Not only that but I find the phone holder is absurdly limited in size. Basically it is a waste of space.

I hate the phone holder in my +8s, my phone gets knocked out of it or bumps kick out the ap. I’m going to switch it out for the Nyon.

After 5,000 miles on street/city/sidewalk riding ….rear rim developed crack around spoke hole. No parts available. Expensive Allant+ 8s with dual battery purchase….not worth the money. Could have bought 3 really good e-bikes….

That’s a fairly common failure on many bikes/rims, regardless of e-bike, price, etc. There are many, many factors that could contribute to that. Fortunately, the Allant+ 8S uses fairly standard Alex MD35 27.5″ rims in 32h. In normal times, those should be a readily available replacement part.

Those could be replaced with just about anything. My recommendation would be something more burley, like the SunRingle Duroc SD42 which has nearly the same internal width, but a thicker spoke bed, welded joint, and stainless eyelets. Should make for a much stronger wheel. The rims are also in stock at various places.

It can’t hold enough weight. Too expensive for wheels not fit for a muscular or slightly heavy rider + backpack of errand stuffs. You will get failure in the wheels, and if you are honest, you will not have any claim in a warranty.

They need to make any/every ebike capable of holding the bike weight + 290 lbs at a minimum. Anything else is for lightweight riders and honestly, just overpriced junk.

I bought this bike brand new at the end of April. Three months & 250km later the speed sensor failed which forced the bike into limp mode. It’s been broken for over 2 weeks and still waiting on Trek to fix, with an ETA of 2 more weeks. They did not communicate how long the repair was going to take until I called them up after a week of no contact.

Would not buy an Allant or any Trek bike again.

This is not a Trek problem. It is a worldwide supply chain problem. Trek is probably #1 in parts availability, of any bike company in the world. Trek is also very high quality. But, as you know, sometimes a product does not hold up as expected. Sorry you are having this problem. If you bought a lower quality brand, you could easily have worse problems. Note: I do not work in the bike industry (I am in the supply chain industry).

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Trek Allant+ Review

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The Trek Allant+ is a robust and stylish high-performance ebike that’s packed with state-of-the-art features and all the necessary accessories.

It sets the standard for electric commuter bikes in terms of practicality, speed, and reliability, but it comes at a premium price that may not fit everyone’s budget.

Whether you are a seasoned ebike commuter or a casual city rider, the Trek Allant+ could be the right choice for you thanks to the functionality its Bosch electronics and Shimano components offer.

In this comprehensive review, we will delve into the nuances of the Allant+, examining its design, features, performance, and how it stands up against the competition.

Trek Allant+ Specs:

• MSRP: $3,800 – $6,350
• Class & Speed: 1 (20 mph) or 3 (28 mph)
• Motor:  Bosch Performance CX or Performance Speed
• Battery:  500 Wh or 625 Wh
• Range:  Calculate
• Wheels: 27.5″/650B
• Drivetrain: Shimano Alivio, Deore, or XT
• Brakes: Shimano Hydraulic Disc Brakes
• Weight: 49 – 56 lb
• Payload Capacity: 300 lb

Trek Allant+ Full Review

The Allant+ is one of Trek’s best-selling series of ebikes, blending modern design and high-tech features. These are high-performance ebikes with top speeds of 20 mph to 28 mph, depending on the class and specs.

All models are equipped with a Bosch motor and battery, Shimano derailleurs and hydraulic disc brakes, lights, as well as all the accessories necessary for daily riding.

The Trek Allant+ is every city commuter’s dream as its Bosch motor provides plenty of torque and the 500-625 Wh batteries offer enough capacity for a few days of riding. In case that’s not enough for you, you can also add a second long-range battery to double the range.

Related post:  Trek Verve+ 2 Ebike Review

All models also feature Trek’s proprietary Removable Integrated Battery (RIB) system for a sleek look and easy charging. The batteries are seamlessly integrated into the downtube, but easy to remove and replace or charge off the bike.

The Trek Allant+ is a robust and stylish high-performance ebike, setting the standard for electric commuter bikes in terms of practicality, speed, and reliability.

With several frame variations including step-over, stagger, and low-step, the Allant+ ebikes truly fit everyone’s needs.

Though the pricing is much higher compared to direct-to-consumer brands such as Aventon, Ride1UP, or Lectric, the quality of the components is a lot higher as well and there’s also the big-brand appeal that many riders are keen on.

Trek Allant+ Pros and Cons

Rider-friendly aluminum frame.

Trek Allant+ comes with a sleek-looking aluminum frame with integrated battery and cables, available in three variations:

Trek is a rare brand that offers its bikes in three variations, as most other brands only offer step-over and step-through frames. The Stagger variation is somewhere in between.

If you like ebikes with a clean look and a simple color palette, you’ll like Trek Allant+’s design. All cables are integrated and the battery is almost unnoticeable, hidden inside the down tube.

This aluminum frame is paired with a 45 mm suspension fork on the Allant+ 7 and 7S models, a rigid alloy fork on the Allant+ 8 model, and a rigid carbon fork on the Allant+ 9.9 models.

The frame is also equipped with a wide range of accessories which make it fully commuter-ready. You can read more about it in the section below.

High-Performance Bosch Motor and Battery

The heart and soul of Trek Allant+ ebikes is a Bosch mid-drive motor coupled with an integrated but removable Bosch PowerTube battery.

The most affordable Allant+ 7 and 7S builds come with Bosch Performance CX drive units, and all the other models come with faster and more powerful Performance Speed units.

Likewise, the Allant+ 7 and 7S builds have 500 Wh batteries, while all the other models boast larger 625 Wh batteries that offer more range.

• Related: Best E-Bikes with a Bosch Motor

Of course, all builds use modern torque sensors, feature large Bosch displays, and have app connectivity which lets you customize assistance levels and overall ride feel.

High-Quality Shimano Builds

At the moment of writing this Allant+ review, Trek offers this series of ebikes in four builds:

• Trek Allant+ 7
• Trek Allant+ 7S
• Trek Allant+ 8S
• Trek Allant+ 9.9S

As you can see in the section about electronics above, they mainly differ in motor power, battery capacity, and top speeds. However, they also differ in terms of drivetrain components and the brakes they use.

The most basic Trek Allant+ 7 build features 2-piston hydraulic disc brakes, whereas all the other builds with 28 mph top speeds have 4-piston hydraulic discs as they need more braking power.

Its blend of Bosch and Shimano technology offers unrivaled reliability and functionality, making it an excellent choice for both dedicated ebike commuters and casual city riders.

Naturally, if you pay more you’ll also get a better groupset, ranging from Shimano Alivio, over Deore, all the way to XT.

Durable Commute-Ready Accessories

If you want to replace your car with a capable ebike, you’ll appreciate the fact that Trek Allant+ ebikes come pre-equipped with all the accessories you could possibly need for year-round commuting.

This includes front and rear fenders, front and rear lights, a rear rack, and a kickstand. All builds come with the same accessories, regardless of the price.

The only disadvantage with these is that the rear racks on the more expensive models sit lower than the fenders, so you may only use them to attach panniers. You can’t use them to strap a basket or a backpack on top. Though it’s fair to say that most commuters travel with panniers so this may be a problem only for a select few.

Trek Allant+ Downsides

Apart from the potential issue some riders may have with the rear rack that we mentioned above, Trek Allant+ doesn’t really have any downsides.

The main thing that will deter some people from buying it is its price. Namely, you can get a much cheaper model from direct-to-consumer brands that does pretty much the same things that the Allant+ models do.

Despite its premium price tag, the Trek Allant+ delivers a remarkable fusion of comfort, style, and performance.

However, Trek does it a lot better, looks A LOT nicer, and is arguably more durable with better customer support. So it’s up to you to determine your priorities and decide if these perks are worth the upcharge.

Frequently Asked Questions

How much does a trek allant+ 9.9 weigh.

The Trek Allant+ 9.9 weighs around 49 lb, which is great for a fully equipped city commuter electric bike, especially considering it has a high-capacity battery and numerous accessories. Most similar electric bikes weigh upwards of 50 lb, with some lower-cost models weighing over 60 lb.

Why is Trek so expensive?

Trek’s bikes are more expensive than many direct-to-consumer brands but cost around the same as other big-name brands. The reason Trek is more expensive than brands such as Aventon, Ride1UP or Lectric is that it uses higher-quality Bosch and Shimano components and has a popular name to back up the price.

What is the top speed of Trek Allant+ 7S?

The Trek Allant+ 7S’s top speed is 28 mph, which makes it a class 3 electric bike. All Allant+ models with an “S” behind the model name have a 28 mph top speed, whereas the models without an “S” have a 20 mph top speed, meaning they fall into the class 1 category.

What frame configurations is Allant+ available in?

The Trek Allant+ is available in Step-Over, Stagger, and Low-Step frame configurations. This makes it suitable for a wide array of riders who need different functionalities from their ebikes. All frame configurations cost the same and come with the same combination of accessories.

What is the range of the Trek Allant+ 9?

Trek does not disclose the exact range of the Allant+ 9 model because the mileage depends on a lot of factors, such as the rider and cargo weight, PAS level, terrain, weather, and so on. You can use Bosch’s Ebike Range Calculator to get a rough estimate of what mileage you can expect from a full charge.

Our Verdict: Ride or Pass?

The Trek Allant+ ebike series delivers a premium, high-performance ride experience with top-notch components, significant range, and high speeds.

Despite its steeper price tag, the blend of Bosch and Shimano technology offers unrivaled reliability and functionality, making this series an excellent choice for both dedicated ebike commuters and casual city riders.

Its versatile frame design, impressive accessory list, and the possibility to extend its range further enhance Allant+’s appeal.

Equipped with top-notch components, significant range, and high speeds, this ebike series solidifies Trek’s reputation as a leader in the industry.

While it may not fit everyone’s budget, those willing to invest in the Trek Allant+ will find it a remarkable fusion of comfort, style, and performance.

We can conclude that this series is well worth considering, solidifying Trek’s reputation as a leader in the ebike industry.

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Trek Allant+ 8S Review, 2024

This comfortable commuter combines cool tech with a responsive, dialed-in feel.

The most prominent highlight from our time on the bike was the overall feel and performance of its 250W Bosch Performance Line Speed mid-drive motor. As a result of this premium drive system, the Allant+ responds naturally and proportionally to changes in pedaling with smooth assistance, yet never loses an analog bike feel.

With a Bosch drive system comes the ability to be paired with the multifunctional Bosch COBI.BIKE app. This app serves as a hub that integrates with your favorite audio, fitness, and navigation apps, allowing you to track ride data, listen to music or audiobooks, make calls to your closest contacts, and receive turn-by-turn guidance to your destination.

We couldn’t help but appreciate the bike’s overall high-quality feel and confident handling. With 2.4” wide tires and a weight of 57 lbs, the Allant felt firmly planted, but it retained the nimble handling of a lighter-weight city bike.

Additionally, as a Trek product, it felt generally well-rounded with comfortable, precise geometry, top-tier components, and a sturdy frame.

To learn more about the bike’s performance in our series of real-world tests, see our full Trek Allant+ 8s review below!

• Aside from the increased speed, it’s hard to tell you’re riding an e-bike thanks to the impressively smooth yet powerful 250W Bosch Performance Line Speed mid-drive.
• Quick access to navigation, music, contacts and more when using your phone as a display; the Bosch system pairs with the brand’s COBI.BIKE app.
• Feels planted and stable – yet nimble – with 27.5”x2.4” tires, a rigid fork, solid construction, and an overall weight of 57 lbs.
• Capable of extended rides thanks to its 36V, 625 Wh battery. A supplemental range extender battery can also be added for more miles.
• A truly refined and elevated feel that comes as a benefit of being a Trek product.
• Keeps up with traffic more easily as a Class 3 e-bike with pedal assist up to 28 mph.
• Pedals effectively on hills and at high speed thanks to a versatile 11-42T cassette.
• Great modulation and responsiveness from the 4-piston Tektro Orion hydraulic disc brakes.
• Four levels of pedal assist for a streamlined, easy to use system.

• We like the Bluetooth functionality and COBI.BIKE app, but the bike’s integrated universal phone mount felt flimsy. We’d prefer something more durable.
• We appreciate the visibility granted by the pulsating tail light, but we challenge Trek to include brake lights on the next iteration of the bike.
• The Allant’s lights are always on, though servicers of Bosch systems can adjust this setting.
• Battery: Bosch PowerTube 625Wh
• Display: Bosch SmartphoneHub
• Motor: Bosch Performance Speed, 85 Nm, 28 mph / 45 kph
• Headlight: Trek Lync headlight, 500 lumens
• Taillights: Trek Lync taillight, 50 lumens
• Pedal Assist: Eco, Tour, Sport, and Turbo
• Throttle: N/A
• App: COBI.BIKE
• UL Certification: UL 2849 compliant
• Claimed weight: 56.3 lbs (57 lbs actual)
• Rider height range: 5’5” to 6’6”
• Maximum load on the rear rack: 31 lbs
• Total payload capacity: 300 lbs
• Brakes: Shimano MT520 4-piston hydraulic disc, post-mount, 180mm rotor
• Fenders: Trek custom aluminum
• Fork: Allant+ rigid alloy fork, 1-1/8” steel steerer, 100x15mm thru axle, post mount disc brake
• Frame: High-performance hydroformed alloy, Removable Integrated Battery, Range Boost-compatible, internal cable routing, Motor Armour, post-mount disc, 135×5 mm QR
• Drivetrain: 10 speed, ProWheel 46T narrow/wide alloy, w/alloy guard chainring, Shimano Deore M4100 11-42T cassette
• Grips: Bontrager Satellite Elite, alloy lock-on
• Saddle: Bontrager Commuter Comp
• Handlebar: Bontrager alloy, 31.8mm, 15mm rise, 600mm width (M), 660mm width (L, XL)
• Kickstand: Rear mount, alloy
• Pedals: Bontrager City pedals
• Tires: Bontrager E6 Hard-Case Lite, reflective strip, 27.5×2.40”

The Allant+ 8s showed an uncommon combination of stability and maneuverability that we thoroughly enjoyed!

The 250W Bosch mid-drive motor feels powerful and provides up to a 340% return of your effort.

While the Allant+ includes a basic display, it encourages the use of your smartphone when paired with the Bosch COBI.BIKE app.

Trek Allant+ 8s Review: Speed Test

To perform our Speed Test, I pedaled the Allant+ 8s on a flat section of our local network of multi-use paths, filmed the process, and recorded the maximum speeds I reached in each of the bike’s four pedal assist settings.

During this test, it was important that I maintained a moderate level of effort due to the mid-drive motor/torque sensor; this combination allows the motor to dispense a greater amount of pedal assistance when using more effort, or put out less power when riding casually. My goal was to find an average level of speed with the assumption that those using more or less effort could expect slightly different results.

When pedaling with no pedal assistance, I comfortably reached a surprising top speed of 13.4 miles per hour. The power level of the Allant’s lowest pedal assist system (PAS) setting, Eco Mode, was subtle, and raised my top speed to 14.7 mph. Tour mode seemed to make a much greater difference; I reached 19.2 mph there. Sport and Turbo Modes provided measured increases in power which allowed me to reach 22.4 and 25.2 mph respectively.

Overall, the power distribution of the Bosch system was remarkably even; each setting provided an expected, intuitive increase in assistance. I was surprised to note that even with maximum assistance in Turbo Mode, the Allant+ 8s still felt much like an analog bike; were it not for the sound of the motor and the ease of which I was able to reach superhuman speeds, I would not have guessed I was on an e-bike.

This is due in large part to Bosch’s tuning and programming, though more broadly, it’s also a side effect of relatively low motor output. 36V motors with 250W of nominal output are on the subtle side, drawing power more slowly and magnifying the effort of the rider to a lesser degree than motors with higher voltage and/or watts. As such, similar motors are used often on higher-end e-bikes that aim to retain a non-electric feel.

This test showed us that the Allant is made for riders who enjoy a traditional cycling experience. Those who prefer riding slower or elevating their heart rate might select Eco or Tour mode, while those looking for more speed and a less strenuous ride may find Sport or Turbo modes to be ideal.

With nearly 75 miles of range and the ability to add a range boost battery, the Allant+ 8s has serious commuter chops!

The 10-speed mixed Shimano/Prowheel drivetrain offered a wide gearing range for various types of terrain and assist levels.

A 625 Wh battery is integrated into the down tube, and an additional 500 Wh unit can be mounted to the frame.

Trek Allant+ 8s Review: Range Test

We performed two Range Tests using the Allant+ 8s to determine a realistic mileage bracket that most riders could expect to fall within. To establish this bracket, we rode the bike in Eco Mode and Turbo Mode until the battery expired, using Strava to document our mileage and the duration of each test.

In Turbo Mode, our tester Brendan traveled 29.8 miles over the course of 1 hour and 37 minutes. We covered over twice the distance in Eco mode; our riders measured 74.8 miles after spending 6 hours and 4 minutes on the bike.

This is an impressive distance, though when compared to similar commuter e-bikes we tested previously by numbers alone, the Allant+ appears to be relatively average. One component of this surface-level comparison is the fact that we have tested a handful of similar e-bikes with remarkable efficiency; this has inevitably skewed the results.

In truth, the Allant+ 8s was not as efficient as we expected it to be based on its motor and battery specs, though once again, its results in this test were far from poor. With a 250W nominal/600W peak motor and a 625 Wh battery, we anticipated that our Turbo mode test would yield roughly 55 miles over a 2.5 hour time period.

Our actual results produced 35% less time and 46% fewer miles than expected, which suggests that the bike’s motor was drawing more power from the battery than anticipated. This makes sense when considering that the Allant+ had a higher-than-average average speed during this test; most of the other Class 3 commuters with mid-drive motors had an average speed below 20 mph, while the Allant maintained an average of 22.3 miles per hour.

Regardless of its position in comparison to similar commuter e-bikes we’ve tested, we consider the Allant+ 8s to be successful in providing a highly practical range, especially when in its low power setting.

However, for those who need the ability to cover more miles with a higher assistance level or those planning an extended trek (apologies for the pun), the brand offers a supplemental 500 Wh Range Boost battery. When adding this external battery to the mounts on the down tube, we believe riders could expect roughly an 80% increase in overall range.

Trek Allant+ 8s Review: Hill Test

Compared to other commuter-style e-bikes we have reviewed, the Allant+ 8s gave a relatively average performance, but our focus in this test is not to reward the bike with the fastest time, but instead to recognize general ability.

The Allant+ proved to be competent at assisting our ascent, requiring only a comfortable but steady level of effort in Turbo Mode to reach the top of the hill. In this setting, the Bosch Performance Line Speed motor is advertised as providing up to 340% power in proportion to the rider’s effort. While we have no way of testing this for precision, the 250W mid-drive has a maximum output of 600W and 85 Nm of torque, which is a significant amount of force to aid in uphill travel.

To be clear, the Allant+ 8s does require active pedaling, but our experience at Hell Hole Trail was enjoyable and far from strenuous. I have personally pedaled up (or rather, attempted to pedal up) the path on an analog bike, which was an experience I have no desire to repeat. For an e-bike like the Allant to turn that exhausting endeavor into a fun and spirited experience is truly a delight.

I should also point out that the bike includes an impressive gearing range to make climbing easier when using a lesser amount of pedal assistance. With a 46T chainring and a 10-42T cassette, riders can pedal efficiently even on steep roads or paths.

Bottom line, while there are some similar e-bikes that can conquer steep hills faster, there are also plenty that a cyclist riding the Allant+ 8s would leave behind. The bike is extremely capable of “flattening” hills and turning exhaustion into exhilaration.

With the ability to get a precise fit through three frame sizes, we found the Allant+ 8s to be extremely comfortable.

The Tektro Orion hydraulic disc brakes felt powerful and responsive.

The Bontrager 2.4”-wide tires helped to absorb vibrations from the road.

Trek Allant+ 8s Review: Brake Test

The bike is equipped with a high-performance Tektro Orion 4-piston hydraulic brake system with 180mm front and rear rotors. We expected the Allant to perform well in this test with this brake system, as it is uncommon in our experience for such powerful brakes to be included on an e-bike of this type.

We were not disappointed! For comparison, the average stopping distance for all of the commuter e-bikes we’ve tested is 21’-10”, so the Allant+ performed noticeably better than average.

At 57 lbs, the Allant+ 8s is relatively middle-of-the-road in terms of weight, but well within the range that makes two-piston brakes effective. Such a robust four-piston ensures excellent stopping ability even when traveling at Class 3 speeds up to 28 miles per hour.

The brakes felt every bit as effective as their numbers suggest; even when flying downhill at speeds exceeding 30 miles per hour, the Allant felt stable and its speed completely under control. Its stability remained when slowing down; I experienced slight fishtailing when braking hard, but nothing out of the ordinary.

With that in mind, we wish that the blinking tail light functioned as a brake light (indicator lights would be great, too, but we’ll start small). It is fantastic to have such reliable stopping power when traveling at high velocity, but the ability to communicate with other drivers, cyclists, and pedestrians is equally important.

Prospective buyers should feel confident in the bike’s brakes, however; the Tektro Orion system provides fast, powerful stopping power and the ability to easily modulate speed.

The 660mm handlebars on our test bike provided quick steering.

The slim saddle felt supportive yet soft and comfortable.

A small pulsating tail light is integrated into the rear fender.

The small 500 lumen headlight is impressively bright!

Trek Allant+ 8s Review: Ride Quality

In terms of comfort, the bike excels; its riding position, while having a slight forward-lean, is mostly relaxed and upright. It features a well-shaped Bontrager Commuter Comp saddle with a great balance of softness and supportiveness. The bike includes ergonomic rubber grips with plenty of support, and large rubberized pedals with plenty of grab – but no pegs to inflict shin wounds in the event of a slip.

The Allant+ is offered in three frame sizes and two frame styles; the high-step we tested fits riders between 5’-5” and 6’-6”, while the step-thru or “Stagger” model is made for shorter riders between 5’-1” and 6’-1”. At 5’-11”, I fit squarely in the middle of the accommodation range for the Large frame, and it felt perfect for me in terms of saddle height, reach, etc.

As I mentioned previously, the bike felt firmly planted, but still handled incredibly responsively. Its 660mm handlebars provided quick steering, and ultimately felt wider and roomier than they were. The 27.5”x2.4” Bontrager E6 Hard-Case Lite tires helped the bike feel stable and offered cushioning to help counteract the absence of a suspension – which itself plays a role in the bike’s confident handling but makes bumps more pronounced.

A huge element that contributed to the overall ride feel of the Allant+ is its Bosch Performance Line Speed mid-drive motor. In addition to providing a remarkably smooth and consistent feel to its pedal assistance, the system includes highly functional technology to make rides easier and more enjoyable.

Our test bike was outfitted with the manufacturer’s SmartphoneHub that includes a basic black-and-white LCD, but features a spring loaded clamp mount that allows riders to use their smartphone as a display. When paired with the bike through Bosch’s COBI.BIKE app, users have seamless access to up to 10 pre-selected contacts for making calls with Bluetooth headphones/earbuds, streaming songs through Apple Music or Spotify, turn-by-turn navigation with Apple Maps, ride tracking through Strava or Komoot, and health/fitness data through Apple Health or Google Fit.

We found the app to be highly functional in most cases, though as with any technology, there was a slight learning curve to the app and the bike’s multi-functional control panel. Once it was set up, my phone became a true unified dashboard that felt more in line with what I expect in an automobile. I appreciated that the app could be manipulated through my phone or (more reliably) the bike’s button panel, and I also liked that simply removing and/or rotating my phone would return control to the bike’s integrated LCD and stop ride tracking.

The phone mount itself is something I hope Bosch improves in the future; the spring loaded top portion of the clamp felt rather flimsy, and in fact broke at some point during our testing. When diagnosing the issue, we observed that the mechanism seemed to be held together with two tiny screws that did not seem to be stout enough for a moving component. Sturdier construction would be appreciated, but in the meantime, a separate phone mount may be good to keep on hand – the handlebars have enough real estate to make that option practical.

One other thing prospective owners should be aware of is that the bike’s light system is always active when the bike is turned on. Our contact at Trek advised us that this is a setting within the Bosch system that was selected for safety reasons, but it can be changed to provide more direct control to the user. As long as your local bike shop services Bosch systems, their technicians should have the ability to alter the light settings.

Aside from these relatively minor concerns, the overall feel of the Allant+ 8s was of a solidly built, high-quality, responsive, and dialed-in e-bike. We hope to see a few small improvements, but there is simply a huge “WOW!” factor to the bike as-is.

Controls for PAS adjustment, app control, and high/low light settings are on the left handlebar.

The ergonomic grips, while somewhat short, felt squishy and comfortable.

We liked the grip of the rubberized Bontrager City pedals.

The lightweight cargo rack has a 31-lb carrying capacity.

Trek Allant+ 8s Review: Summary / Where to Buy

In our testing, the Allant+ appeared relatively average – but it is important to consider that average is a pretty high bar. The bike has remarkably smooth pedal assistance with intuitive programming, the ability to reach blazing speeds, plenty of power to make climbing steep hills enjoyable, and brakes that can stop on a dime.

We hope to see some minor improvements on the next version of the bike, including a sturdier phone mount/display unit, a brake light, and a way of turning the lights off – but even with these things in mind, the Allant+ 8s is a highly capable commuter that we thoroughly enjoyed testing.

With a huge degree of comfort, the ability to keep up with traffic, the reserves to cover a significant distance before needing to be recharged, and the backing of a global brand, we gladly give our seal of approval to the Allant+ 8s.

Happy Riding! Make sure to let us know if you have any questions or if you think we left anything out in this review of the Trek Allant+ 8s down in our comments section.

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• Frame High-performance hydroformed alloy, Removable Integrated Battery, Range Boost-compatible, internal cable routing, Motor Armour, post-mount disc, 135x5 mm QR
• Fork Size: S, M, L, Allant+ rigid alloy fork, 1-1/8'' steel steerer, 100x15mm thru axle, post mount disc brake; Size: S, M, L, Allant+ alloy, tapered alloy steerer, 100x15mm thru axle
• Motor Bosch Performance Speed, 85 Nm, 28 mph / 45 kph
• Battery Bosch PowerTube 625
• Hubs Bontrager alloy, sealed bearing, 6-bolt, 135x5mm QR
• Wheels Alex MD35, tubeless compatible, 32-hole, 35mm width, presta valve
• Spokes Size: S, M, L, J-Bend, 14g, Steel, Black; Size: S, M, L, DT Swiss 14g, black
• Tires Size: S, M, L, Bontrager E6 Hard-Case Lite, reflective, wire bead, 60tpi, 27.5x2.40''; Size: S, M, L, Bontrager E6 Hard-Case Lite, reflective, wire bead, 60tpi, 27.5x2.4''
• Chain Size: S, M, L, KMC E10; Size: S, M, L, KMC X10e
• Crank Size: S, M, ProWheel alloy, 170mm; Size: L, ProWheel alloy, 175mm
• Rear Derailleur Size: S, M, L, Shimano Deore M5120, long cage; Size: S, M, L, Shimano Deore M6000, mid cage, 42T max cog
• Shifters Shimano Deore M4100, 10 speed
• Brakeset Shimano MT520 4-piston hydraulic disc, post-mount, 180mm rotor
• Handlebar Size: S, M, Bontrager alloy, 31.8mm, 15mm rise, 600mm width; Size: L, Bontrager alloy, 31.8mm, 15mm rise, 660mm width
• Saddle Bontrager Commuter Comp
• Seatpost Bontrager Comp, 6061 alloy, 31.6mm, 8mm offset, 330mm length
• Stem Size: S, Bontrager alloy, 31.8mm, Blendr compatible, 7 degree, 60mm length; Size: M, Bontrager alloy, 31.8mm, Blendr compatible, 7 degree, 70mm length; Size: L, Bontrager alloy, 31.8mm, Blendr compatible, 7 degree, 90mm length
• Grips Bontrager Satellite Elite, alloy lock-on
• Headset Size: S, M, L, FSA IS-2 alloy, integrated, sealed cartridge bearing, 1-1/8'' top, 1.5'' bottom; Size: S, M, L, FSA Integrated, sealed cartridge bearing, 1-1/8'' top, 1.5'' bottom

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Trek Allant+ 8S Stagger Review: Takeaway

If you’re after a powerful electric road bike that will deliver power up to 28 mph, the Trek Allant 8+ Stagger could well be it. For an electric bike with a price of just under $4,500, you won’t find a much speedier option.

We love the range on this — even in a mid-power setting, you’ll get up to 60 miles, which is more than enough for a day in the saddle. For those considering the odd day’s trekking on your electric bike, the 500Wh range extender can give you a total distance of 100 miles of economical riding.

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Could the Trek Allant 8+ Stagger be the new king of electric utility bikes? With its COBI.Bike smartphone control system, great range, and Bosch Performance Speed mid-drive motor, this is the apex machine where city cycling is concerned.

The COBI.Bike app acts as an onboard computer, letting you see your distance, speed, and other stats. Many riders end up clipping their phone to the handlebars anyway, so the ability to control the electric bike through the smartphone is a breath of fresh air. The e-bike can even act as a charger, allowing you to navigate big rides without killing the phone’s battery.

Reasons to Buy

As with many Trek e-bikes, you have the choice of three frame sizes: S, M, and L. This lets you enjoy a nice ride no matter your height.

We also like the Bosch Performance Speed motor. Light and powerful, it will keep on pushing even as you get up to 28 mph.

Finally, another unique feature is the Removable Integrated Battery compartment. You can store your battery directly in the frame and remove it without any extra tools.

Things to Consider

Pedaling at close to 30 mph will make you break a sweat! Your legs will pump so hard at those speeds with the 11-tooth highest gear that it might be uncomfortable. Reaching 20-25 mph is a fast cruise on any electric bike, so this may just be too powerful.

While the Allant 8+ Stagger doesn’t come with a throttle, we don’t think it needs one. Given that it has such a large battery and great power output on pedal assist, you won’t break a sweat on a normal ride.

The Trek Allant 8+ Stagger is light and efficient compared to other e-bikes with big power and long range, but this comes at the sacrifice of its hefty price tag.

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The Alliant+ 8S Stagger is a Class-3 e-bike that’ll take you up to 28 mph. Given that the smallest sprocket on the cassette has 11 teeth, you’ll find yourself pedaling hard to achieve this speed. Reaching the top speed will require power support on all but the fastest downhill stretches, and though that can be fun, it’s a little beyond the needs of most riders since typical riding is at 15-20 mph on the flat.

The 2.4” tires will offer a lot of rolling resistance, too, meaning you’ll drain the battery fairly quickly on a 28 mph sprint. Other factors that can impact riding speed are hills, weather conditions, and rider/cargo weight.

Because it’s too powerful, the Alliant+ 8S Stagger also goes through battery quite quickly at higher speeds. However, if ridden sensibly at speeds of 15-20 mph on lower power settings, you’ll get 50 miles out of the 625 Wh battery without too much worry.

Remember that with hilly terrain and higher rider weight/cargo loads as well as inclement weather conditions, you’ll get fewer miles per charge. Rider style (and responsibility toward other road users) is another factor.

Sat in an upright, classic position, you’ll find the Alliant+ 8S Stagger a comfortable ride on the road. The e-bike has rigid alloy forks meant specifically for road use. It also comes with quite wide, 2.4” tires on 27.5” wheels that will handle most uneven surfaces.

One piece of technology that adds to your comfort is the ability to use your phone as the main controller. You’ll only have to look in one spot for all the parameters of your ride. On other e-bikes, you’ll be looking away from the road for longer as you look at different screens.

This bike isn’t ideal for riders under 5’1” or over 6’1”, but it’s comfortable for those in the most common adult height range.

If ridden hard, this e-bike will require regular maintenance. One of the key factors affecting chain and cassette life is the wattage put through the pedals. Ridden normally, the chain may stretch beyond tolerance every 750 miles or so. Ridden at the max 28 mph speed regularly, these components will last fewer miles.

Trek offers a lifetime warranty on the frame and a two-year warranty on things like the forks. Meanwhile, motor and battery supplier Bosch offers five years on its motors.

Offered in a light gray or black color scheme, the Allant+ 8S Stagger is a stylish and modern electric bike you’ll love to be seen riding on. Its shape is very much of the current style with its slightly square tubes and comfortable geometry. The 27.5” wheels and comfortably wide road tires make for an electric bike that’s pleasing to the eye.

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Sure would appreciate someone who has taken "Best of Moscow by high speed train" from St. Petersburg could please share their impressions of this shore excursion. From the description this sounds like a very long day.

Wondering how the 4 hour train trip was in terms of accommodations, etc. Also what time did you leave the ship and what time at night did you return? Were both legs of the trip on the high speed rail (I read that slower trains also travel the same tracks)?

My wife and I are considering this excursion. We thought that if we are making all the effort to go to Russia then how could we pass up going to Moscow, walking in Red Square, seeing St. Basil, etc.

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If you are considering this on the 2015 June Baltic cruise on Voyager; my suggestion is don't. There is so much to do in St. Petersburg and although a train is one of my favorite ways to travel the time would be far better spent in St. P.

Thanks for the advice. Yes, this would be on the Voyager during the 2015 season but not yet sure exactly which cruise.

We did the Moscow excursion "on a different luxury line", but from your brief description it sounds very much like the same trip, so I will operate on that assumption. It is a VERY long day! We left the ship at 5:30 AM and returned at 12:30 AM. The highspeed train trip is comfortable, and while they call it "Business Class" it does not compare well to the equivalent class on say Rail Europe. When we did it in 2011, we did have highspeed both ways, and the trip back seemed much longer as the adrenaline and excitement had worn off!:D

Moscow itself is not that terribly different from any other big city in the world, but this Cold War kid never thought he would ever stand in Red Square, never mind walk the grounds of The Kremlin, or tour The Kremlin Palace, or see (but not visit) Lenin's Tomb, or visit The Armoury. But he did, and he loved every minute of it! Yes, it is a long day, and you barely scratch a scratch on the surface, but it is worth it. There is a tremendous amount to see in St. Petersburg, but every Baltic cruise goes to St. Petersburg, so you can go back if you choose to. Not every cruiseline offers you the chance to see Moscow.

I have not personally done this tour, but our last time in St Petersburg, the private guide that we hired for a day was leading the regent tour to Moscow on the high speed train the next day. He said it was way better than the previous alternative, which was flying to Moscow and back. He said that you actually got to Moscow faster because you didn't have to deal with airline checkin etc. it did seem like a very long day to me, and there is so much to see and do in st. Petersburg that I didn't consider doing it.

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We toured to Moscow from St. Petersburg via the hi-speed SAPSAN train last September, from a Baltic cruise on the Oceania Marina. You need to have a two-night, three day port call in St. Petersburg to take this tour because the tour typically leaves the ship around 5:00 - 5:30 AM and doesn't return until after midnight the next day. We didn't take the ship's tour; we made private arrangements with TravelAllRussia for three days of touring, the first and third days in St. Petersburg and the second day the tour to Moscow by train. Our cost for the private tour for three days was about the same as what the ship charged for the excursion to Moscow alone. There are a number of private tour agencies that operate in St. Petersburg and offer the Moscow train tours; we would strongly recommend them over the ship's tours.

All three days had private guides with car and driver. The second day, the driver picked us up at the ship and took us to the train, but we were alone on the train, and met in Moscow by the guide on the station platform. After our tour and dinner, we were brought back to the train and after the return train trip met by the driver and taken back to the ship. Because you are alone on the train you must have your own Russian visas.

If this is your first visit to St. Petersburg, I would agree there is much more to see there. We found Moscow somewhat a disappointment, particularly Red Square. The Kremlin and the cathedral in Red Square were also worth seeing. But the best thing we saw was the Moscow subway! I worked for the Washington Metro system back in the 1980s as it grew from 40 to 80 miles and although I was in the computer area, I learned a lot about the challenges of running a subway system. We used the Moscow system to get across the city from where we had dinner to the train station, and I was amazed at the cleanliness', speed of operation, the short headways maintained, and the courtesy of everyone involved. A very impressive experience!

We had been to St. Petersburg before, and so had the time to take a day and go to Moscow. Also, I really like trains, and the SAPSAN is a German train set running on Russian rails. Seats are like first class domestic air, spacious but not too plush or comfortable, but with enough room. Not too much recline, and almost 8 hours on the train in two shots is a lot for an old man. They come through and sell drinks, candy, etc. but the sellers don't speak English and no one around us helped, so we had just poor coffee once coming, and brought stuff with us for the trip back. Not too much to see from the train either, particularly on the return when it is night the whole way.

If you decide to go, take a private tour and avoid the overly expensive ship's tour. I'm glad we did it, but wouldn't bother to repeat the tour; we've seen Moscow.

Thanks so much to all of you for the thorough and thought insight. Yhe information you have provided is most helpful.

countflorida: Your detailed post is very helpful. We are not quite ready for a Baltic cruise but should do so within a year. Time enough to do our pre travel research, bookings and visa gathering.:) Thank you!

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Sure would appreciate someone who has taken "Best of Moscow by high speed train" from St. Petersburg could please share their impressions of this shore excursion. From the description this sounds like a very long day.   Wondering how the 4 hour train trip was in terms of accommodations, etc. Also what time did you leave the ship and what time at night did you return? Were both legs of the trip on the high speed rail (I read that slower trains also travel the same tracks)?   My wife and I are considering this excursion. We thought that if we are making all the effort to go to Russia then how could we pass up going to Moscow, walking in Red Square, seeing St. Basil, etc.

I did this on Seabourn. IMO DONT. Take Aeroflop (er Aeroflot). The train has non folding seats where you are literally knee to knee with your fellow passenger (facing each other). Further they don't believe in air conditioning. It's also the worlds slowed bullet train. I think I would have found more enjoyment wandering around the St. Petersburg and Moscow airports.

Countflorida,

This is a little off topic,, however we had planned a river cruise in Russia but decided we would rather stay on land and have booked about two weeks with Travel-All-Russia using the private guide and driver. I'm curious as to how you found them as a tour company.

The guides they provided were fine. We had a different guide each of the days in St. Petersburg, but both were flexible, pleasant, knowledgeable and spoke English very well, as did the guide in Moscow, incidentally. She was a bit aloof, distant, not too friendly, but otherwise fine. In fact, she was the one who suggested taking the Metro, which unexpectedly became one of the highlights of the Moscow excursion. If I have a complaint with AllTravelRussia, it is with their plan and its execution (more later).

I had requested emphasis on World War II (in Russia, the Great Patriotic War) sites and info. In scheduling us, they weren't careful about dates and a couple of the sites we wanted to see were scheduled on the third day, after we'd been to Moscow. But both sites were closed that day of the week, and that info was readily available, right on web sites describing them. Also, the included meals (lunches in St. Pete, dinner in Moscow) were not what we asked for: light meals with some choices, so we could avoid things we didn't like and choose things we did like. My request was ignored; we were given full Russian meals with a fixed menu, no choice. On the first day, a fish dish was the entre, but I am allergic to fish. Fortunately, I had the e-mail I'd sent with me and showed it to the guide, and she was able to change my entre to chicken, which was very good actually. But we didn't want a 3-4 course lunches or dinner (in Moscow). We had the guide drop the lunch the third day, although we never got any credit or refund. But, particularly in contrast to the ship's tours, the prices were so reasonable we didn't worry too much about it.

The people who were on the ship's tour to Moscow saw us boarding the same train for which they were forced to queue up and wait on the way back, and asked us what we had done. I was candid and open so they were not happy when I explained what we had arranged and particularly what it had cost. Also, when we returned to the ship, we found they had laid on a late supper for those who had gone to Moscow, so up we went and had something. Well, it turns out the late supper was supposed to be just for those on the ship's tour, but we and others on 'independent' tours, there were a dozen or more of us, crashed the party, actually got there first, and they didn't realize it until the larger group arrived and there weren't enough tables/places set. By that time, the 'independents' had all gotten served and were eating; what could they do?

A couple from the larger group sat down with us and asked us about our tour, and they were the ones I told about our arrangement and its cost. They turned to others who’d been with them and announced the details, loudly enough so the whole room heard, which started a lot of bitching and complaining. I gathered they weren't very happy with the ship's tour to begin with, and this was the straw that broke the camel's back. We finished up and beat it out of there, but overheard later that one of the excursion staff came to check on something and ran into a real mess. I caught a cold on the trip, which forced me to bed the second day following in Tallinn, so by the time we reappeared we heard about the contretemps' but apparently no one recalled who started it, thankfully.

Because of what happened to us, I would probably not use AllTravelRussia if I were to go again, or if I did, I would be sure to get confirmation of every detail of the tour. They do have good reviews generally, and we were certainly helped by their visa department and liked the guides and drivers. Their weakness, I say now with full 20:20 hindsight, is that once the sales person who plans the tour, sells it to you and collects your money, he (or she) transfers the plan to their Russia office for implementation; there is no follow-up to make sure it gets done right. And that is where our problems arose; we paid for a custom tour but got a standard package with a few destinations switched, and no one checked them out, even to see when they were open the day we were scheduled to go. If you check every detail that’s important to you, it should be OK, but that’s a hell of a way to have to do business, in my opinion.

Thank you for the 20/20 hindsight observation on your Russian tour operator, and better priced than the ship's excursion cost.

Thanks very much for the feedback.

We had the same experience as you so far as price. We originally booked a Viking Cruise but, hearing some things about the river cruises that made us unhappy, looked into other options. T-A-R cost the same or less than a cruise and had us in hotels for 11 days. We opted for the private tour. They have three tour levels, based on hotels. We originally opted for the four star as it did not cost much more than the three star hotels. Finally we decided to throw it all in and upgraded to five star. In Moscow we will be at the newly opened Kempinsky which is two blocks from Red Square. In St. Petersburg it is the Grand Hotel Europe, one of the most vaunted luxury hotels in Russia. Location is important for us as the tours use up only part of the day so being in the center of everything for our independent touring is important. As with many other cities, the less you pay, the farther out of the center of town you are.

We have been working with our salesman in D.C. and he seems to get back to us with the changes we want. He recently returned from Russia so is up on everything. When I asked they said they paid the full TA commission if I wanted so I got my usual TA on board so he is watching our back and giving us that extra level of comfort. He also set up our air, which I know pays him little or nothing, and got us business class for much less than T-A-R wanted for economy, though it took working for a while with a consolidator. He's happy to get his 10 percent on this trip without having booked it. He also took care of the trip insurance. We've been doing a lot of research on the CC sister site Trip Advisor and will write a report there. We will, I guess, become a source of info for CC members after having spent 5 days in Moscow and 6 in SP.

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Anybody considering a day trip to Moscow from St. Petersburg on the Sapsan may want to look at our travelogue filled with pictures.

http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=1927687

Very informative. Thanks dor sharing. Jeff

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Moskva-Class Cruisers

Separate design teams often attempt to meet a set of ship specifications with completely different, although equally valid, strategies. To fulfill the requirements issued in April 2169 for the successor (NX-223) to the Daedalus class, which was introduced at the end of the Romulan War, Prosser & Ankopitch proposed a ship with an extremely large, spherical command hull attached to a nearly vestigial engineering hull. The proposal from the Mikoyan-Tupolev-Dassault Bureau used a long narrow command hull with a minimal frontal silhouette counterbalanced by an equally long engineering hull.

The engineers at Tezuka-Republic decided that the division of ship's functions between a command/crew hull and an engineering hull was arbitrary and unnecessarily restricted design options. Therefore, rather than gathering all the specified facilities in a single hull, their design TR-223A spread them across two hulls, as in Daedalus , and segregated the SSWR-IV-C warp core to a "bustle" at the extreme aft end of the secondary hull. This bustle could be separated easily and quickly from the rest of the engineering hull in the event of a warp core breach. The now-unpowered warp nacelles would then be shed. In this way, the demands of safety would be met without warp dynamics being degraded either by an excessively large frontal silhouette or by longitudinal warp field imbalance.

Although the Ship Specifications Review Board praised Tezuka-Republic for its creative solution to the problem of admittedly contradictory requirements for extreme safety and improved warp performance, they were forced to disqualify design TR-223A for not precisely meeting contract specifications. Therefore, in October 2171, construction contract NX-223 for Starfleet's new cruiser was awarded to Prosser & Ankopitch for what would become the Wasp class .

However, almost no one was happy with the new Wasp ships. Even before the contract was awarded, voices within Starfleet and within industry had strongly criticized the specifications of April 2169. These critics charged that they would lead to a mediocre, albeit safe, fighting ship. Two separate classes were needed, not a single class that was neither a proper explorer nor a proper warship. When Wasp was finally launched in 2173, her performance during precommisioning trials clearly showed that the critics had been correct. Although the performance problems were related in part to the continuing unavailability of the more powerful Tezuka-Republic Hiryu ("Flying Dragon") mark III warp nacelles, Wasp was obviously not the ship Starfleet had hoped for.

In a second attempt to obtain a reliable and capable warship, new specifications (NX-374) were issued in September 2175, little more than a year after USS  Wasp had entered service. Adding to this sense of urgency were intelligence reports suggesting that the Romulans had either developed or otherwise acquired matter/antimatter (M/AM) reactors. This time the specifications put less emphasis upon safety. The original requirement for completely separate command and engineering hulls was eliminated; instead, any hull configuration was allowed as long as the warp core could be quickly separated from the rest of the ship. Furthermore, requirements for speed, acceleration, and maneuverability both under impulse power and under warp power were increased, as were performance levels for target acquisition, tracking, and servicing.

These new specifications were a clear, albeit belated, admission that the critics had been correct all along: one class could not be expected to serve as both an explorer and a main battleship. In fact, starship technology was not considered sufficiently mature for a single ship to adequately fulfill both mission profiles until 2245, when the Constitution -class heavy cruiser was launched. (The controversy continues even today in the wake of the problems of the Galaxy -class explorer.)

Luckily, the designers and engineers at Tezuka-Republic had not been idle since their disappointing loss of the Wasp contract in 2171. Instead, they had spent their time refining design TR-223A so that their new entry (TR-374A) was markedly superior to what had been submitted 5 years earlier. In particular, the new SSWR-V warp reactor allowed the bustle to be made smaller, lighter, and even more easily separable. Therefore, it was hardly surprising when in November 2176 Tezuka-Republic was awarded the production contract over designs from Shimata-Dominquez, Prosser & Ankopitch, Mikoyan-Tupolev Dassault, Monarch R&U, and Thornycroft/Ebisu for what was to become the Moskva class.

However, engineering prowess may not have been the only factor in Tezuka-Republic's winning of the contract. There were accusations that the delay in delivery of the Hiryu warp engines was an attempt by Tezuka-Republic to prevent Wasp from reaching her designed performance levels. While no conclusive incriminating evidence has come to light, the delivery of the long-awaited engines shortly before the scheduled launch of Moskva in December 2177 is certainly suspicious. Tezuka-Republic maintains that if their submission of 2169 had been selected, its performance would also have not have met design specifications without the Hiryu engines. However, critics charge that TR-223A was not as reliant as Wasp on the type of engine used. Furthermore, once the Wasp contract was awarded, and even after Wasp was launched, Tezuka-Republic certainly made no efforts to accelerate delivery of Hiryu.

These controversies were soon rendered moot as the new Moskva class was recognized as a significant advance in starship design. The most important new feature was Moskva's discoid primary hull. Earlier designs had chosen a spherical primary hull for reasons of economy. Simple geometric relationships dictate that a spherical hull has the smallest surface area for a given volume. Therefore, construction costs are lower and shields are more efficient. Furthermore, institutional inertia had led nearly all exploratory cruisers originating until that time from the National Aeronautics and Space Administration, the United States Astronautics Agency, the United Earth Space Probe Agency, and its successor organizations to have spherical hulls.

The designers of USS  Moskva employed a biconvex disc for several reasons. Their initial motive was to increase hull volume while minimizing both frontal and lateral silhouettes. A warship with large frontal and lateral silhouettes would be at a greater disadvantage in most tactical situations than would be a ship with an increased superior silhouette. However, the discoid hull allowed the traditional radial layout of command hulls to be retained.

More important than these tactical advantages were functional advantages. As was shown with the Wasp class, warp field geometry would have been awkward if a spherical hull with its relatively large frontal area had been used. The discoid hull was also found to channel warp field flow across its upper surface towards the bussard ram scoops of the warp nacelles. This channeling effect improved field efficiency at all power levels and speeds. As the understanding of warp field mechanics was refined, the trend towards saucer-shaped primary hulls would be intensified in later Starfleet vessels.

In most respects, the Moskva class continued design and engineering trends established in the Comet and Daedalus classes introduced at the end of the Romulan War. As in these classes, ship functions were clearly divided between a command/crew hull and an engineering/propulsion hull. The bridge was returned to its customary position atop the command hull and the shuttlecraft bay was again placed in the secondary hull. The fusion reactor was centered along the longitudinal axis of the ship, and impulse thrust ports exited immediately in front of the warp bustle detachment seam.

Weaponry was the then-standard mix of fusion-warhead missiles and lasers. New to this class was an early type of ultraphased pulse laser cannon, two of which were mounted in the chin of the primary hull. Although the on-target energy output of this new weapon approached that of early phasers, its power requirement was higher and its range was substantially less. However, subsequent refinements lead to steady improvement and, ultimately, to the development of true phasers in 2202. Although Moskva -class ships were the first to be fitted with phasers in 2204, lasers were still carried by the Moskva class and later classes until the 2220s. Finally, warp capability was supplied by the long-awaited Hiryu mark III drive units.

The first ship of the new class, USS  Moskva (NCC-374), entered service with Starfleet in April 2179. An additional 30 ships (NCC-375 to NCC-404) joined the fleet through 2183. Moskva -class ships gained immediate popularity with officers and crews. First, total laser firepower was increased some 75% over that in the preceding Wasp class. Second, because the ship's mass was more equally distributed along the longitudinal axis than in the Wasp class, Moskva was significantly more maneuverable at both sublight and warp speeds. Finally, the more warp-dynamic design allowed greater cruising and maximum speeds.

The Moskva class had an outstanding safety record. No ships were lost because of mechanical failures. However, an incident occurred aboard USS  Johannesburg in 2186 when a faulty nacelle flow monitor falsely indicated a runaway positive feedback power loop within the plasma flow governor. Believing that a catastrophic warp core explosion was imminent, Chief Engineer Roberta Bocharnikov ordered the warp nacelles and warp bustle to be separated. Although unnecessary, these maneuvers were successful in causing the separated warp core to initiate its automatic shut-down routine. The warp core, nacelles, and the rest of the ship were towed to Starbase 13, where they were successfully re-mated. Despite her supreme embarrassment, Bocharnikov oversaw the reassembly and relaunching of Johannesburg and retained her position as chief engineer.

Although most ships of the Moskva class had left front-line service by 2215, some continued to serve as auxiliaries and training vessels until the 2240s. After retirement from active duty, Moskva -class ships were used as testbeds for many emerging technologies owing to the similarities of their layouts to those of succeeding classes. USS  Moskva was the site of the first successful ship-to-surface transport of a Human being in 2206, and USS  Gato was the first ship to fire photon torpedoes in 2214. In addition, Taurus -class tugs, which entered service in 2182, and Sanford -class repair tenders, which entered service in 2185, were derived from the Moskva class and used the same primary hull and warp drive assembly.

The Moskva -class cruiser USS  Aurora (NCC-377), a participant of the Battle of Eohippus IV, is on display at the Starfleet Museum.

Standard displacement: 67,750 t

Crew complement: 160 (27 officers + 133 crew) Weapons: 8 Type VI laser turrets (8 × 1 mounts), 2 Type VII laser cannons (fixed mounts), 2 missile launchers with 36 Spartak missiles Embarked craft: 4 medium cargo/personnel shuttlecraft, 2 light personnel shuttlecraft, 5 fighter/scouts Warp drive: SSWR-V-A spherical cavity M/AM reactor with 2 Hiryu III nacelles Velocity: wf 4.0, cruise; wf 5.0, supercruise; wf 5.2, maximum Units commissioned: 31