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The wife wants more seats than her Supercrew offers. I am considering a 5.4 liter (I am fond of the one we have in the Supercrew) in an Excursion. Am I all wet by thinking this is adequate power for an Excursion? She will not be towing. The V-10 is only $500.00 more. This is a kid hauler, and any help with mileage would be a bonus, but I do not want her underpowered on the expressways. John PS. She will not go for the Diesel  

The 5.4 gets about the same if not worse than the V-10 in the excursion.  

I test drove an Excursion w/ the 5.4 and 3.73 axle last year -- it was, shall we say, sluggish? The $500 for the V10 buys more than the larger motor. It also includes a higher capacity radiator (2 cooling rows instead of 1), a stronger rear diff (3 pinion gears instead of 2), and a tighter TC (1.90 vs 2.10 in the Ex). I also think the TCC is stronger, but I can't find the specs... HTH, crewzer  

Crewzer, I need help with the abbreviations. I drove the 5.4L with the 3.73, and agree it's no rocket. The V-10 felt "heavier", yet stronger, but not a bunch more pep. I understand it will drink 2 mpgs more than the 5.4L. I am curious about the 4.10 gear 5.4L match. My past present success with the 5.4L makes me want it to be the better choice. I have no ownership experience with the V-10, and am cautious about the reliability. John  

Crewzer, Good stuff. Unloaded, can you hang with your brother's truck? Again, I have been very pleased with the 5.4, and she won't be towing. John No Mo, I have considered the Expedition, but with the $3,000.00 rebate for the Excursion vs the $1,500.00 for the Expedition, I see more value for the Excusion for essentially the same price.  

johnlyon where did you get your 2 mpg better info for the 5.4L? Everyone I have talked with get worse MPG than I do with the 3:73 rear end. I am getting 12.2 consistantly in the Dallas area around town and between 14 and 16 on the Highway depending on the speed limit.  

No problem. Stronger rear differential Tighter torque converter (1.90:1 nominal stall ratio vs. 2.10:1) TCC = torque converter clutch I'm happy enough with the 5.4V8 and 4.10 combo in my 4X2 crew cab Super Duty. I wanted to get the V10 + 3.73 when I bought my truck in March 2000, but too many dealers told me about long waits for factory orders, so I bought mine off the lot. One of my brothers ordered his truck with V10 a few months later; he's very happy with the performance, and has had *no* problems of any kind. We both tow 3,250 lbs trailers. His winter mileage around suburbia was ~9, and he's seen 15 mpg's on the highway. My 5.4's winter suburban mileage was ~10, and I've seen 16 on the highway. One adjustment I've w/ the 5.4 made is to use mid-grade (89 octane) when towing at low altitudes (<2,500 ft), and 87 when towing above 2,500 ft. The engine is much more responsive, and it'll stay in overdrive longer before downshifting while climbing a hill. crewzer  

I am biased too, and hate the V-10. Those who've been here a while know why! I am very impressed so far with the powerband on my new 5.4/3.73 and mileage is better for short/in town trips. Highway mileage is about the same as the V-10 was. Here's the kicker, though: Banks now makes a powerpack for the 5.4 that will put you up to about 10 more rear wheel horsies than a stock V-10. Plus, you should get some mileage improvement and it will sound sweet! I would definatley go with the 5.4 and 3.73. Break it in a while, then put a powerpack on it if you need more. I was quoted about $1200 for the Banks kit from Fuel Injection in Allen, PA. I want to get a couple thousand miles on first and then I'm going for it. Good Luck  

summitx: Although I like the 5.4L in my superduty and think it's a fine engine choice, I've not hear that many negatives of the V10. Did you experience a problem with it? or was its performance not what you were expecting?  

KXH, My V-10 had a severe flutter problem. Go to http://www.idrive.com/summitx and download the mp3 sound files to hear it. It took a year of heavy battle with FMC to get any help. Finally, they put me in touch with a young guy who is the area rep for the Northwest (James Edwards) and he took care of me. Basically, he gave me a more than fair buy back on my old one and a $2000 voucher for a new one. I went with a 5.4 supercab and, although I really miss the Crew-Cab, I'm happy with it. The powerband is smooth and it seems to have the power where I need it most ~ 3-4000 RPM is just as tourqey as the V-10 was. Granted, the SC is a little lighter than a CC but.... I never towed anything significant with the V-10 but I do pull a 2 place snowmobile trailer that is probably 2500# loaded. The V-10 would pull OK but would have to downshift on even the slightest little hill. I've driven the new Chevy 8.1 vortec and I don't think the V-10 comes close to it for low-end torque. As far as mileage, the V-8 does way better on in town driving but about the same on the highway at 75+.  

The little woman is starting to like the psd. She's even refering to it as her car now!!!!!!!!!!!!  

I have a 2001 excursion limited, V-10, 3.73 limided slip. I tow a 7500 pound boat on weekends in the hills of new england. The engine/axle combo does a great job. It is in no way over or under powered. When unloaded I consistantly get 14 mpg in town and as high as 17 on the highway, towing I get around 12 mpg. I feel that even with just the seats full, the 5.4 would be under powered and fuel economy would suffer. This is a heavy truck that's capable of doing a lot of work for you, why would you want to do it the injustice of under powering it. Resale would also suffer because most that are interested in the excursion have a job for it to do. Go for the V-10, you'll be happier later on.  

I demoed an Ex with a V10 in Y2k and even that was underpowered. Dealers here won't even order one with a 5.4L. If memory serves (as of 2001 models), only the 2WD version is available with the V8. With the Ex weighing in at almost 4 tons, that small block is going to be working way too hard just to move the vehicle, much less any cargo/passengers. Since my 2 day test of that Ex I have always stated that of the current crop of motors, the PSD is the only logical choice for the Ex. Finally, with a 2WD Excursion, the resale/trade-in will be a shocker. If you like that V8 in a SUV, an Expedition is better matched to that powerplant. My .03  

Don't se how you could hate the V10 and like the 5.4 it is a 5.4 with 2 more cylinders same bore and same stroke!!and in that big heavy excursion i bet under most conditions mileage is same fill that thing with a half dozen kids and gear i bet it is a slug with the 5.4 besides resale will be better because most people buy a truck like that with towing in mind!!  

Johnlyon Just a thought for you based on your Bio and location. The fuel savings are not great enought to warrent the penalty you will pay come trade in or resale time here in Texas. My V10 is only 3 months old and has moved from 12.5 to and from work to 13.7 mpg. Most of the dealers here in Fort Hood area won't even order v8. One dealer in Lampasas only orders PSD and they jump off the lot.  

I know many V-10 owners are happy with it - My MAIN point was that I am quite impressed with the 5.4 - More so than I thought I would be - And, I am one of a probable few who have actually owned a V-10 and switched to the 5.4 so I should know. I just think that the 5.4 is a little bit under-rated and the 6.8 is a little over-rated. If you need more towing power than the 5.4 has, go with a diesel, or get the 8.1 Chevy.  

As Dear old Dad said, "Give her everything she wants and just a bit more. It's going to end up that way anyway, so you may as well get credit for being a good guy". She got the PSD. Thanks guys, John  

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I have a 2001 Expedition 4x4 with a bad 5.4. What other models/years can I get this motor from? The wreckers seem to have quite a few F150's but cannot/will not tell me interchange information.:noNO: Sure could use some help here from the panel of experts...:help:  

Looks like only 2000 or 2001, F150 or Expedition will work. Check here and you'll see who has it, what price and what will work. Car-Part.com--Used Auto Parts Market  

Yep. Looks like that's about it. Thanks.  

It's slim pickin's thats for sure. Curious though, if you'd be able to mount in a 4.6L if 5.4Ls are scarce in decent condition. Obviously that'll be a power loss downsizing the engine, but if it's an option, and a cheaper option that'll bolt up to the transmission without requiring a different bell housing, I know I'd consider it.  

If i were you, I would look for a totaled Navigator from the same years and pull the intech motor out of one of them. They have the 32 valve 300hp DOHC 5.4L motor. Not only should it bolt up, but it has a forged bottom end that can support upwards of 1000 hp if you decide to build up the vehicle.:hy:  

Actually, I'm goin' thru this right now! Info on the engine is incorrect, you can use any 5.4 from a truck or expedition from 1999 to 2003 (P.I) engines so long as you stay with a 2V engine, or 1997,1998 (non-P.I.), but they are less powerful. Can't quote exactly when, but the Navigator's got the 3V engine sooner than the Expedition, possibly in 01' i think.? But as far as the Expedition goes, the 2v engine ran from 1997-2003. Hope this helps, and I used car-part.com to get my new engine as well, it's a great site if know what u need!  

You shouldnt be limited to the older engines. At 185,000 miles my 00 with a 5.4 shot out a spark plug out we decided to swap out the engine. Put in an 09 with about 30,000 miles for a total of a little over 3 grand installed. it runs great and has more power.  

Cool. Got a 99 with the 5.4 TRITON. Looking at putting one on out of an 08. Did you have to swap the engine wiring harness, PCM or any of the modules or anything???? Did you just pull and replace the engine only????  

Will the navigator motor fit a 2002 ford excursion with a 5.4, and does it have the same spark plug blowing thingy the other 5.4 is having  

jwandhistools said: I have a 2001 Expedition 4x4 with a bad 5.4. What other models/years can I get this motor from? The wreckers seem to have quite a few F150's but cannot/will not tell me interchange information.:noNO: Sure could use some help here from the panel of experts...:help: Click to expand...

Need a new engine for my 2003 Expedition , 5.4. What's the newest year that will work?  

For a straight up drop in, 2004. In 2005, they went to a 3V, yours is a 2V.  

I have a 1999 ford f350 with a 5.4 triton 2valve I was wonder what motors I can swap into it the 5.4 has 273k and is under powered I'd put a 4.6 or even a damn v6 just to keep my truck on the road  

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Yes. I have a 2001 f150 5.4 in my 2001 ford expedition. Works just fine. (2004+ the 5.4 was changed to 3v so make sure its older f150 like 1998-2003)  

They are 2 different generations, you will need to make some sort of accommodations. The problem will be more of you're sensors and engine management, You can try to roll back the management on the new engine to the old by using all the old sensors, etc., or you can try to update you engine management. If you just use the short block, it may be a little easier. It's doable, but there are caveats.  

The 04 is a 2 valve, the 07 is a 3 valve. If you move it, move everything. I don't know if the heads are interchangeable but if they are, you may be able to put the 2V heads on the 3V block depending on the cut of the pistons.  

The 3v pistons have a different dish so your compression ratio will be different as well. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk  

I'm going through some issues with 2001 f150. We put motor from 99 expedition both 5.4 but truck will not run with that motor. Expedition motor was running when they pulled it but won't run in truck.  

Run as in won't turn over or run as in turns over and doesn't fire?  

Starts but won't stay running won't idle backfires  

Are you sure all the sensors are plugged in and all the grounds are tight?  

I have been checking all connections and I hope I can find something because to me it acts like a bad coil but I have checked coils and they were good other than 2 but I replaced them. It runs but won't idle and back fires and don't accelerate very good  

Have you checked the maf and all the fuses?  

No I haven't but I've plugged it in to my scanner and all I can pull is o2 sensors codes  

Which codes specifically? That could be your issue, or at least point you to it.  

I haven't hooked up all the o2 sensors yet because I'm building custom exhaust but I do have them in there just not plugged in yet. It should run even without o2 plugged in but it won't stay running at all without me working the gas pedal repeatedly. The back firing is the issue I think just don't seem to be hitting on all cylinders. Is there a way to test coils while there off the motor?  

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No matter what the new Ford Excursion's virtues may be--and there are many--a fair number of folks seem to have a problem seeing past the sheer mass of this thing. Some of these same folks raised an almighty furor when Ford's new imperial-size utility vehicle--now the absolute monarch of the motorized mastodons--was unveiled earlier this year. They portrayed the Excursion as an unmitigated menace to smaller vehicles and, with fuel economy unlikely to top 18 mpg, a serious spewer of carbon dioxide--the so-called greenhouse gas--despite the Excursion's Low-Emission Vehicle status.

To be sure, there's no denying the Excursion's dimensions. At 226.7 inches by 80.0 inches by 77.4 inches (including roof rack), it's 7.2 inches longer, 3.3 inches wider, and between 5.4 and 5.8 inches taller than the current General Motors Suburban. It's also heavier, with curb weights crowding the four-ton frontier.

But let's acquire a little perspective here. The Excursion is one big bopper, for sure, but the Suburban is no wraith, and it's had the full-size-sport-utility market cornered for about 65 years. Although Ford did grab a chunk of the full-size-SUV business with the Expedition and the Lincoln Navigator, Suburban sales continued to soar, topping 150,000 last year. Ford execs couldn't see any reason to allow GM to define and dominate a steadily expanding segment.

"This has been essentially a one-vehicle segment for a long time," says Ford Division president Jim O'Connor. "That's simply unheard of in this business."

Ford's entry into the mastodon market is driven by a couple of compelling motives. First, the Expedition/Navigator program, which succeeded beyond Ford's wildest dreams, proves that the market for king-size sport-utilities still has a considerable potential for growth. People want the big utes for heavy-duty chores, such as towing, that the smaller ones can't handle, or can't handle as well. The Expedition's upper towing limit, for example, is 8300 pounds; a suitably equipped Excursion can drag a trailer weighing up to 10,000. The same goes for the Suburban.

Second, there's money to be made on big expensive SUVs based on large-volume pickups. Financial analysts calculate that every Navigator nets almost $15,000 for FoMoCo. It's not unreasonable to assume that each Excursion will contribute almost as much cash to the corporate bottom line. You don't make that kind of money on Escorts, folks. Or on Explorers.

There are a couple other ironies relative to the initial Excursion backlash. Although it's heftier, the Excursion's dimensions are about the same as those of the largest Ford Econoline van, a vehicle type that has thus far failed to provoke righteous indignation among the self-appointed environmental ombudsmen. For that matter, there are Ford full-size pickups that are a root and a half longer than the Excursion. Where were these people when the civilian edition of the AM General Hummer came along? Of course, the Sierra Club doesn't go after companies that sell only a handful of $70,000-to-$85,000 vehicles.

Speaking of safety, one of the major concerns of the anti-ute hysteria is what happens when a giant SUV, with its high ground clearance, smites an ordinary passenger car. We think Ford has a pretty good answer in the Excursion's patented BlockerBeam system, a tubular steel fixture mounted below and behind the front bumper. If or when hard contact occurs, the beam is designed to prevent the Excursion from riding up and over a smaller vehicle. In the rear, a modified Class IV trailer hitch serves the same function.

The Excursion can ingest up to 165 cubic feet of car go with its center seats folded forward and its rearmost seat removed. Thanks to a pair of rollers, one person can manage the removal task, although it entails crawling inside to lift the base free of the latches. There's room for those ubiquitous four-by-eight-foot sheets of building material on the almost-flat floor, despite the inside spare-tire stowage (which helped to make space for the 44-gallon fuel tank).

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How Many MPG Does a Ford Excursion Get?

The Ford Excursion, a large and powerful truck, has often been associated with it’s impressive capabilities rather than it’s fuel efficiency. As a result, there are no official EPA mileage ratings available for vehicles of this size. However, Ford's internal testing sheds light on the fuel economy of different engine options. The 5.4-liter V-8 variant delivers an estimated range of 12 to 15 miles per gallon (m.p.g.). Alternatively, the V-10 engine offers a slightly lower range of 10 to 13 m.p.g., while the diesel V-8 excels with a range of 15 to 18 m.p.g. These figures serve as useful indicators for potential Excursion buyers, providing an understanding of the fuel efficiency they can expect from this formidable truck.

How Many Miles Per Gallon Does a 2005 Ford Excursion 6.8 V10 Get?

The 2005 Ford Excursion with a 6.8 V10 engine has been subjected to extensive analysis based on data collected from 156 vehicles, 5,765 fuel-ups, and an astounding 2,042,819 miles of driving. These figures provide valuable insights into the fuel efficiency of this particular vehicle model.

As reported, the 2005 Ford Excursion demonstrates a combined average MPG of 12.3Reaching this conclusion involved meticulous calculation and consideration of many factors. However, it’s essential to note that this figure also comes with a minimal margin of error. The margin of error, estimated at 0.08 MPG, accounts for slight variations and uncertainties inherent in collecting such extensive data.

This average MPG figure provides valuable information for individuals interested in purchasing this particular model or anyone researching the vehicles gas mileage performance.

Moreover, the comprehensive data set utilized in determining the average MPG figure strengthens the credibility of the findings. With information gathered from a diverse range of vehicles and considering various driving conditions, users can feel confident in the reliability of this fuel efficiency estimate.

However, it’s crucial to remember that fuel efficiency can vary depending on various factors, such as driving habits, road conditions, and vehicle maintenance. Individual experiences may differ from the average MPG reported. Understanding these influencing factors can help car owners optimize their vehicles fuel efficiency and make informed decisions about their driving habits.

Factors Affecting Fuel Efficiency of the 2005 Ford Excursion 6.8 V10

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• Tire pressure and condition
• Vehicle weight and load
• Aerodynamic drag
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• Spark plug condition and gap
• Air filter cleanliness
• Fuel injector cleanliness
• Driving conditions (city vs. highway)
• Transmission type and condition
• Exhaust system condition
• Ignition timing
• Fuel system efficiency

The Ford Excursion is a powerful and robust SUV that offers impressive performance on the road. While fuel efficiency isn’t typically a strong suit for vehicles of this size, it’s estimated that the 5.4-liter Excursion delivers around 10-12 miles per gallon, though it may achieve slightly better numbers on the highway. Despite it’s thirst for fuel, the Excursion’s durability and strength make it a popular choice for those in need of a heavy-duty SUV.

How Many Miles Per Gallon Does a 5.4 Excursion Get?

The Ford Excursion, a heavy-duty SUV, was manufactured by Ford Motors from 2000 to 200This formidable vehicle, classified as a Class 2, full-sized SUV, gained a reputation for it’s robustness and durability. With a top speed of 97 mph, the Excursion showcases solid performance and reliability.

When it comes to fuel efficiency, it’s important to note that the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) doesn’t provide official fuel economy ratings for trucks of this size. However, it can be reasonably expected that the Excursions miles per gallon (mpg) range would fall between 10 and 12 mpg. During highway driving, some owners have reported achieving around 14 mpg, although a more realistic estimate for city driving would be around 10 mpg.

Despite it’s lower fuel economy, the Excursion compensates with it’s significant hauling capacity and towing capability. This SUV can comfortably accommodate large passenger groups while still having ample space for cargo. It’s sturdy build and powerful engine make it an ideal choice for those who require a heavy-duty vehicle for various purposes, such as towing trailers or hauling heavy loads.

Furthermore, the Excursions reliable performance and superior suspension system contribute to it’s smooth and comfortable driving experience. While it may not excel in fuel efficiency, it excels in other areas, such as it’s sturdy construction and impressive power.

The fuel efficiency of a 2003 F-250 7.3 Powerstroke can vary based on driving habits and conditions. However, according to data collected from 226 vehicles, the average MPG for this model is approximately 12.74, with a small margin of error.

What Is the MPG on a 2003 F250 7.3 Powerstroke?

The 2003 Ford F-250 Super Duty, equipped with the 7.3 Powerstroke engine, has proven to be quite efficient in terms of fuel consumption. Drawing upon a comprehensive dataset comprising 226 vehicles, 13,907 individual fuel-ups, and an astounding 3,783,176 miles of driving, it’s become evident that this powerhouse of a truck delivers a commendable average MPG of 12.74.

With a minuscule margin of error at just 0.06 MPG, this figure speaks volumes about the F-250 Super Dutys ability to balance power and fuel economy. Owners of this vehicle have experienced consistent and reliable performance, making it a top choice for those seeking a combination of hauling capabilities and decent mileage.

The 7.3 Powerstroke engine, renowned for it’s durability and torque, proves to be an asset in terms of efficiency as well. It’s optimal fuel combustion and well-designed engineering contribute to the F-250 Super Dutys ability to maximize fuel utilization, resulting in an above-average MPG for a vehicle of it’s category.

The extensive mileage and fuel-up data gathered from numerous owners attest to the fact that this truck consistently performs beyond expectations, providing it’s drivers with both the power they need and the efficiency they desire.

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In conclusion, determining the exact fuel efficiency of a Ford Excursion is challenging due to the absence of EPA mileage ratings for trucks of this magnitude. However, based on Ford's internal testing, it’s estimated that the 5.4-liter V-8 engine achieves approximately 12 to 15 miles per gallon (m.p.g.), the V-10 engine obtains around 10 to 13 m.p.g. (as per personal experience of 12.5 m.p.g.), and the diesel V-8 engine yields an estimated 15 to 18 m.p.g. While these figures serve as a general guideline, individual driving habits, conditions, and vehicle maintenance can influence the actual fuel efficiency achieved.

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2000-2005 Ford Excursion Towing Capacity (With Charts)

The Ford Excursion was only made for a total of five years, but it was a powerhouse when it came to towing capacity and some of the ratings I found are mind-boggling.

These came with different engine configurations and different axle ratios, which made the specs a bit different. Let’s dive in!

There were a few differences when it came to the capacity numbers, based on the different model years. The overall capacity was increased on almost every model of the Excursion in 2003 and later models.

Overview of the Data For the Ford Excursions:

Engine Choices: There were 4 different motors that came standard with these SUVs and these were the 5.4L (V8), 6.8L (V10), the 7.3L (diesel) and the 6.0L diesel engines. The 5.4L and 6.8L were used every year the Excursion was made, from 2000-2005. The 7.3L (diesel) was used from 2000-2002 and was later replaced in 2003-2005 by the 6.0L (diesel) but had similar specs as the 7.3L motor.

If you want a great breakdown of what engine options were available for what trim levels, the brochures are a great resource that lays all of that information out nicely. I recommend that you take a look at them if you are curious.

I wanted to list the different engine options that were available for these massive SUVs in order to break up the data a bit, but to also compare how the different engines from the different model years stacked up.

• 2005, 2004 and 2003 Excursions with the 5.4L (V8) engine had a towing capacity of 6,100-7,600 lbs. and 2002, 2001 and 2000 models had a 6,200-7,200 lb. range.
• 2005, 2004, 2003 and 2002 Excursions with the 6.8L (V10) engine had a towing capacity of 9,600-11,000 lbs. and 2001 and 2002 models had a 9,600-10,000 lb. range.
• 2005, 2004 and 2003 Excursions that had the 6.0L (diesel) engine had a towing capacity of 11,000 lbs.
• 2003 Excursions with the 7.3L (diesel) engine had a towing capacity of 11,000 lbs., while the 2002 models had a 10,500-11,000 lb. range.
• 2001 and 2000 Excursions with the 7.3L (diesel) engine had a towing capacity of 10,000 lbs.

4WD VS 2WD Models: If you study the charts, you will see a difference in the numbers for 2WD VS 4WD models and in some cases, there was a 400-500 pound difference between the two, 2WD models having the advantage over 4WD models.

This was only true for models that had the 5.4l engine equipped and the 6.8l engine though. I even found that for some model years equipped with the 6.8l motor had the same tow ratings for both 2WD and 4WD models, so it was true only in certain circumstances.

Trim Levels: Here is a breakdown of the different trim levels that were offered for the 2005-2000 model years. Most trim levels (except Eddie Bauer models) had the option of having all of the available engine options for that specific year, which shows in the overview data that I have listed below.

• 2005 and 2004 XLS trim levels (5.4, 6.8, 6.0) with 2WD had a tow capacity of 6,100-11,000 lbs. and the 4WD models ranged from 7,200-11,000 lbs.
• 2005 and 2004 XLT trim levels (5.4, 6.8, 6.0) with 2WD had a tow capacity of  6,100-11,000 lbs. and the 4WD models ranged from 7,200-11,000 lbs.
• 2001 and 2000 XLT trim levels (5.4, 6.8, 7.3) with 2WD had a tow capacity 6,200-10,000 lbs. of and the 4WD models ranged from 7,200-10,000 lbs.
• 2003 and 2002 XLT Value/Premium trim levels (5.4, 6.8, 7.3) with 2WD had a tow capacity of  6,100-11,000 lbs. and the 4WD models ranged from 7,200-11,000 lbs.
• 2005, 2004 and 2003 Eddie Bauer trim levels (6.8, 6.0, 7.3) with 2WD had a tow capacity of 10,000-11,000 lbs. and the 4WD models ranged from 9,600-11,000 lbs.
• 2005, 2004 and 2003 Limited trim levels (5.4, 6.8, 6.0, 7.3) with 2WD had a tow capacity of  6,100-11,000 lbs. and the 4WD models ranged from 7,200-11,000 lbs.
• 2002, 2001 and 2000 Limited trim levels (5.4, 6.8, 7.3) with 2WD had a tow capacity of  6,200-10,500 lbs. and the 4WD models ranged from 7,200-11,000 lbs.
• 2002 Limited Ultimate trim levels (6.8, 7.3) with 2WD had a tow capacity of 10,100-10,500 lbs. and the 4WD models ranged from 9,600-11,000 lbs.

Overall Capacity: The capacity ratings did not differ throughout the short lifespan of the SUV and in fact, there was only a difference of between 100-1,000 pounds for all model years and engines.

The towing capacity for the 2005, 2004, 2003, 2002, 2001 and 2000 Ford Excursion ranged from 6,100-11,000 pounds overall and was mainly dependent on the engine that you had equipped.

2005 & 2004 Models:

The 2005 and 2004 models had the exact same specs when you compare the charts, along with the same three engine choices, axle ratios and GCWR specs.

The average towing capacity for the 2005 and 2004 Excursion's ranged from 6,100-11,000 pounds, for all models.

As you can see below, both charts are identical in every way, except for their appearances and the specs are shown for the 5.4l, 6.8l and the 6.0l engines. The 5.4l had the lowest numbers on the charts, ranging from 6,100-7,600 pounds, while the 6.8l and 6.0l engines boasted the best figures, ranging from 9,600-11,000 pounds.

2003 Models:

For the 2003 model year, we see that there were four different engine choices: the 5.4l, the 6.8l, the 7.3l and the 6.0l engines.

The towing capacity range for the 2003 Excursions ranged from 6,100-11,000 pounds, depending on the engine that was equipped.

Again, the 5.4l engine came up short compared to all of the other engines, ranging from 6,100-7,600 pounds and the other three engine choices offered 2,000 pounds or more overall capacity, ranging from 9,600-11,000 pounds. The 7.3l and 6.0l engines had the same tow specs for the 2003 models and the 6.0l engine replaced the 7.3l engine after 2003.

2002 Models:

For 2002 Ford models, there were only three engine choices: the 5.4l engine, the 6.8l engine and the 7.3l diesel engine.

We can see from the chart below that the average towing capacity for the 2002 Excursions ranged from 6,200-11,000 pounds, which was slightly different from the '03-'05 models.

The two powerhouse engines for the 2002 models were the 6.8l and the 7.3l engines, having a capacity range of between 9,600-11,000 pounds, compared to models that had the 5.4l engine equipped that had a significantly lower capacity range of 6,200-7,200 pounds.

2001 & 2000 Models:

For the 2001 and 2000 model Excursions, the overall towing capacity ranged from 6,200-10,000 pounds overall and the same three engine choices that we did for the 2002 models.

The same pattern of higher capacities for the 2001 and 2000 models were seen with the larger 6.8l and 7.3l engines, but the range was not that drastic (9,600-10,000 lbs.) compared to later model year Excursions. The 5.4l models were right on par though, having a much lower rating of between 6,200-7,200 pounds.

Axle Ratios Make A Difference…

On some of the Ford Excursions, having a different gear ratio can make a huge difference in how much it can tow when the same engine is equipped.

A great example of this is with the 2003-2005 models equipped with the 5.4L engine (2wd) which has a 1,500 lb. difference between the 3.73 and 4.10 axle ratios.

There is a big difference in maximum capacity for these SUVs that were equipped with the 6.8L engines when looking at the 3.73 and 4.30 axle ratios.

The 2002-2005 (4wd) models had a difference of 1,400 lbs. when looking at the different axle ratios! The 2003-2005 models (2wd) had a difference of 1,000 lbs., still pretty significant!

How Do I Find My Axle Ratio?

There is usually a sticker on the inside of the driver’s side door jamb of most Ford vehicles and towards the bottom of that sticker, you will see the word “AXLE” and below it there will be a code. That code will signify which axle you have on your Excursion.

Example of axle code (Excursion axle code not used in image)

Note: Sometimes your “AXLE” code on your sticker will be blank, which is what is reported by a lot of Excursion owners, but you can also find the code on the differential as well, along with what type of fluid the differential is filled with.

What Tow Package Did The Ford Excursions Come With?

Even though these SUVs were powerhouses, when it came to towing, they had a pretty basic tow package that came standard on nearly all models from 200-2005. These standard items were:

• 7 wire harness and pin connector
• A hitch receiver (usually a class IV)
• Trailer brake wiring (feed kit)

These were the standard three things that came with these vehicles and nothing else was available from the dealer in the form of an upgraded kit, as far as I could find. The only upgrades that I could find were ones that people had done themselves or had a shop perform for them.

Trailer Brakes

There weren't a lot of details in any of the manuals when it came to trailer brakes and the majority of the information I found can be summed up easily. Ford stated that the trailer brakes must conform to local and federal laws and must be installed correctly and that was about it. There was no weight rating that was specified, like there are with newer model year vehicles.

You will need to check to see what your state requires when it comes to trailer weight and trailer brakes to make sure that you comply with their requirements. On a side note, you will also need a brake controller and a 7 pin connector (included) if you are planning on using electric trailer brakes.

Resources I Used...

As always, I like to post where I found my information and for the Ford Excursions, I used Ford's Towing Guides because the information was laid out in an easy to read format and was fairly simple, as you can see from the images of the charts above.

• 2005 Ford Guide
• 2004 Ford Guide
• 2003 Ford Guide
• 2002 Ford Guide
• 2001 Ford Guide
• 2000 Ford Guide
• A resource that has all of the model year's brochures is  auto-brochures.com .

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I've been thinking about looking for a used Excursion. I've seen them with the 5.4 and the V10 but don't seem to be able to find any reliable MPG numbers for them. I am not interested in a Diesel unless it was the same price range as a gasser because I would be planning a Cummins/manual trans swap in the future. However, I would probably drive the thing around for a year or so before any sort of swap, so for those of you out there with Superdutys or Excursions with gas engines, what are you getting for MPG?  

we have a v10 at work, dude gets like 11-14 mpg we have a pickup with a 5.4, know it isn't a excursion, but it gets about 15-16 just throwing it out there for ya. The pickup is 2wd btw.  

i got a 2002 super duty pick up, short bed, extended cab, v10, auto, 3.73 gears, and 33's. if i baby it on the freeway empty 15mpg is good. i have seen 16 on very rare ocasions. 14 mpg is pretty common. i have checked it on paper and with the trip meter, its pretty close either way. 8.9mpg loaded to 18k going to silver lake. tows awesome. the 5.4L will get 1 or 2 mpg better, but the v10 is really nice!  

Those numbers actually seem decent. Anyone know the numbers for the diesel excursion?  

I have a 02 w/ 7.3 I get around 15 city and 18-20 Highway, my 02' F250 7.3 was about the same.  

diesel 7.3L we get 19.5 mpg in 2000 F350 2wd with 3.73 gear ratio in axle 5.4L v8 we get 10-12 mpg in 2001 F250 4x4 4.10 with drag brakes. 5.4L in 2000 E250 3.55 in gear ratio we get 21 mpg on highway at 60 mph 5.4L in 2007 Lincoln Mark LT with 3.73 gear it get 20-21 mpg in summer at 63 mph that where sweep spot for mpg. Winter it get 14-16. 6.8L V10 in 2001 F250 crew cab 4wd with 3.73 auto. It get 9 mpg tow, 11-12 mpg if you cruise 90 mph, normal at 70 mph 11-13 mpg,m and drive at 60 mph you get 14-16 mpg. It have 300,000 miles We could get 18 mpg out V10 if we did mod on exhaust and tuning.  

So from what I'm seeing it looks like I'm about the same either way. 5.4 might be a bit better. I've never owned a superduty. Any common issues to look for?  

Depends what your goals are. Im a bit biased because I have been spoiled by diesels. Im a die hard ford guy, but I think the 5.4L is beyond a turd. If fuel mileage isnt that big of a deal I would rather have the V10. 99-04 superduty 5.4Ls are known for spitting plugs out of the head. I had it happen to cylinder 5 and 7 on my 99. The F150 with a 5.4L is tollerable, the F250 with a 5.4L is pathetic (IMO). the 05+ 5.4L is much better in power and fuel economy, but has issues with cam phazers and plugs breaking off in the head.  

ball joints dont last long. early models spit out plugs(after 02 you should be fine). exhaust manifold studs break and leak and are a pain to change. otherwise ive had zero problems. later 3valve motors are more powerful, but my 02 does pretty good.  

good point about manifold studs. check for carbon traces at each manifold stud. Ball joints seem to be pretty good on 05+ trucks. we have had 4 05+ powerstrokes all with over 85K-140K and yet to change a ball joint. The unit bearings are also known for going out at 100k or so. They can be pricey. Not trying to scare you, just want you to be as informed as possible. Overall I think the 99+ superduty trucks are pretty solid trucks. My brothers over 30 F350s and F450s with 5.4Ls and 6.8Ls and they see 15K every day of the week for construction use. They tried the GM trucks, that didnt last long.  

Motor issues are not a real big deal, nor are front axle issues. My plan is to pick up a clean body/interior and eventually pull the motor. If the motor is a turd it just gets pulled sooner. I've got a 12v cummins ready for the swap, and I would use a pedal assembly from a truck to make it a stick (I don't know how to drive automatics) As for the front axle, I'd probably eventually swap in one of my kingpin 60's to make steering/servicing better. I'll probably look for a V-10, but the most important thing for me is that it has a cloth interior and not leather. My last tow rig had leather and I hated it year round.  

5.4 is a great motor. have had 3 f150's all over 100 thou hard miles.would be a turd in a excursion..get a 01 diesel..great rig alot of power and bulletproof. jeepbratt has one, we were getting 16 pulling 2 jeeps. i have a expadition with 230 000 great truck..the 5.4 have issues with the plug packs and watch for intake cracks on the 5.4.  

If you think 5.4L is not good engine. Listen to this. Owner of my friend beat CRAP OUT his 2001 F250 Lariat. He have 5.4L with 4.10 gear ratio. 5.4L move that truck so quick. You need understand you not get enough power if you are try save gas and push pedal little. You need try HAMMERED you will see it have enough power pass 4,000 rpm. Listen to rev. He actually rev to 5,000-6,000 in that video. I am sure you hear TICK TICK TICK. That was exhaust Manifold studs he broke them when he went 50 mph on street name S Huron River Dr / N Dix Hwy. To say F250 jump 5 feet and slam to ground so hard that hit bump stop on front axle. Plow at storage Video by Dan - MySpace Video@@AMEPARAM@@http://mediaservices.myspace.com/services/media/embed.aspx/m=62591030@@AMEPARAM@@mediaservices@@AMEPARAM@@myspace@@AMEPARAM@@services/media/embed@@AMEPARAM@@aspx/m@@AMEPARAM@@62591030  

MilwaukeeF350 said: If you think 5.4L is not good engine. Listen to this. Owner of my friend beat CRAP OUT his 2001 F250 Lariat. He have 5.4L with 4.10 gear ratio. 5.4L move that truck so quick. You need understand you not get enough power if you are try save gas and push pedal little. You need try HAMMERED you will see it have enough power pass 4,000 rpm. Listen to rev. He actually rev to 5,000-6,000 in that video. I am sure you hear TICK TICK TICK. That was exhaust Manifold studs he broke them when he went 50 mph on street name S Huron River Dr / N Dix Hwy. To say F250 jump 5 feet and slam to ground so hard that hit bump stop on front axle. Plow at storage Video by Dan - MySpace Video Click to expand...

Dollar for dollar, the 2003 Excursion with the 7.3L Turbo Diesel and a performance turner (Bullydog, hypertek, etc) will give you the best of the best in everything. The tuner will help with gas milage above what the diesels normally get. All the power you will need to tow will be there plus be programmable to help save your transmission. Running with the diesel will also give you the option of using a Waste Veggie Oil conversion and run your rig for cheap. When it comes to sell your Excursion, it will retain more value versus getting a gas version. However, its your money, spend it how you see fit. PS I have a 97 Expedition with a 5.4 that I have owned for 4 years and I am not very impressed with its milage/power/towing ability. My 88 F150 with a 4.9 did a far better job than my Expy.  

I appreciate the info. If you read the thread you'll see that I plan to perform a cummins swap, as I have one and feel it might be a bit better than a stock 7.3. Plus in the used market the 7.3 is almost twice what a gasser costs, and resale is of little interest to me as I plan to build the truck and keep it till it's probably not worth more than scrap.  

timsbronco2 said: i had a 03 excursion v-10 and loved it till yesterday when i was in a roll over still love the trk but i miss it. if i was ever in a roll over again i would want it to be in a excursion it keeped me and my wife alive we rolled 5 times Click to expand...

i would think no supporting facts but the 5.4 makes considerably lower tq numbers than a v10. it would take more to power the heavier truck, so why would a v10 get worse mileage than a 5.4? i would see a v10 being better  

I have a 2001 V-10 Excursion with 85,000 for sale. It gets 11-13 mpg with 33's. I also have a 2002 Excursion with a 7.3 diesel that gets right around 20 mpg with 35's. The 01' is an XLT with cloth and everything but the dvd player and yes it is for sale.  

Feel free to shoot me a price/pics.  

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I did read you are ready for a Cummins swap, and I like the idea. I would still get the diesel version first. My thought on that would be is that everything is there for a diesel, you would just need to get an adapter to mate the Cummins to the Ford tranny, unless you have the tranny and transfer case already. You wouldnt have to mess around with getting a diesel lift pump for the tank, and all the rest of the junk.  

You must have read over the part where I said manual trans. Excursions didn't come with them, so I'm basically doing a whole drivetrain swap anyways. I'd stick with the auto, but they are too complicated to drive.  

I've got a 2004 6.0 l diesel Excursion and get 16-17mph with 35" PRO COMPS on it and 3.73 rear end. Not bad for a GVWR of 9200. Sorry to see your roll over, mines the same color and would hate to see her rolled. Howed it happen?  

ive got a 99 superduty with v10 220,000 miles 35s and i get around 10 in the city and 15 on the highway and the power is un real  

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Edmunds' Expert Review

• Provides safe haven for the family, carries lots of stuff, truck-tough underpinnings can take lots of abuse.
• Won't fit in a standard garage, drives like a loaded U-Haul, horrific fuel economy, hard to park, can't beat the Suburban at its own game.

Excursions get crystalline headlamp lenses for 2002, as well as "smart" intermittent front and rear wipers. XLTs gain a new auto-lock feature as well as standard third-row child seat tethers with a BeltMinder system. Excursion Limited receives a chrome side strip, automatic climate control and power-adjustable pedals. New options on XLT include power-adjustable pedals and a power front passenger seat. Limited models can be equipped with memory seats and pedals, second-row captain's chairs and redundant controls for climate and audio on the steering wheel. Both XLT and Limited will get a DVD-based entertainment system for rear-seat passengers later this year. Skid plates are no longer optional.

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Too much truck for too many people. Buy a Suburban if you need a nine-passenger SUV that can tow.

Cost to Drive Cost to drive estimates for the 2002 Ford Excursion XLT 2WD 4dr SUV (5.4L 8cyl 4A) and comparison vehicles are based on 15,000 miles per year (with a mix of 55% city and 45% highway driving) and energy estimates of N/A undefined in North Dakota.

Vehicle overview.

In a classic "bigger is better" move, Ford has upped the SUV ante by producing the largest Bradymobile yet. The Excursion offers more interior room and cargo capacity than the previous heavyweight title-holder, the Chevrolet Suburban. At the same time, Ford is touting the Excursion's "earth-friendly" aspects like an engine lineup that meets LEV standards (albeit for heavy-duty trucks, not passenger cars and light-duty trucks) and the fact that 85 percent of the Excursion, by weight, is recyclable (never mind that 85 percent of an Excursion still equals about 2.5 Honda Civics).

The Excursion's base engine is a 5.4-liter V8 (255 hp/350 pound-feet) on two-wheel-drive models or a 6.8-liter V10 (310 hp/425 lb-ft) on models equipped with four-wheel drive. Optional is a 7.3-liter V8 diesel that makes 250 horsepower and 505 lb-ft of earth-shaking torque. All engines come with a four-speed automatic transmission as standard equipment; no manual transmission is offered in the Excursion.

A trailer tow hitch comes standard, and the Excursion can tug 11,000 pounds in 4WD guise. For comparison, the Chevy Suburban 2500 equipped with the 8.0-liter Vortec V8 can manage 12,000 pounds. But the Ford holds slightly more cubic feet of stuff than the Chevy. The Excursion measures 146.4 cubic feet versus the Suburban's 138.4.

Two trim levels are available. The base XLT model includes running boards, remote keyless entry, four-wheel disc brakes with ABS, an AM/FM/cassette/CD stereo, a 40/20/40 split-bench front seat and a third-row removable bench seat. Angle up to the Limited trim level, and you get a leather interior, automatic climate control, front captain's chairs, woodgrain trim, rear-seat audio controls, a trip computer, power rear quarter-windows, aluminum wheels, illuminated running boards, power signal aero mirrors and fog lamps. An optional rear seat entertainment system, which includes a 6.4-inch overhead LCD monitor, is DVD-powered this year.

Buy an Excursion, and you get tons of cargo- and passenger-carrying capacity, plus the security of knowing that no one else on the road will try to mess with you. Of course, you also get the huge inconvenience of not being able to park in certain garages or use some car wash facilities, and then there's the possibility that other people will assume that, by driving such a behemoth, you're trying to overcompensate for some other area in which you may be lacking. But if you're in the market for such a vehicle, and neither the Chevy Suburban nor the GMC Yukon XL does it for you size-wise, this is your SUV.

Just keep in mind that driving the Excursion is like piloting a loaded U-Haul, and you're going to have to become an ultra-safety-conscious driver.

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