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SKU: TTLKAO-SUZ100-16-8 MPN: SUZ100-16.8 Kaoko SUZ100-16.8 Cruise Control for Suzuki GSX-R600, GSX-R750 and GSX-R1000 01-2016

These Kaoko SUZ100-16.8 Cruise Controls are made specifically for GSX-R600, GSX-R750 and GSX-R1000 to use with 16.8mm Handle Bar Inside Diameter.

Kaoko's Cruise Controls are designed for speed maitenence and improved MPG for a variety of motorcycles over 600cc. They consist of a friction nut that is integral with a replacement handlebar-end weight.

To install, just remove the right hand bar weight, replace it with Kaoko bar weight, and firmly tighten the central retaining screw.

  • Reduces rider fatigue and strain on hand and wrist
  • While cruising, operator is able to remove hand from throttle grip with throttle opening remaining set
  • Very simple to operate, even with heavy winter gloves
  • High quality, compact and durable design, super smooth action
  • Installs in less than 5 minutes
  • Very little maintenance is required
  • Reduction in wear and tear on throttle cables and linkages
  • Can result in better fuel consumption

Note: Kit does NOT include a replacement left-side bar end weight.

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Kaoko SUZ100-16.8 Cruise Control for Suzuki GSX-R600, GSX-R750 and GSX-R1000 01-2016

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2024 GSX-R600 Overview

Suzuki revolutionized the sportbike category with the introduction of the original GSX-R750 in 1985, and later expanded the GSX-R lineage with the addition of the GSX-R600. The 2024 GSX-R600 embodies Suzuki’s tradition of blending race-winning capability with impeccable street manners.

The GSX-R600’s compact, powerful, four-cylinder engine promptly reacts when you twist the throttle, while its supremely refined suspension and brakes provide precise, responsive handling. The superb ergonomics boosts control and comfort while the iconic GSX-R bodywork looks great under any of the three available paint schemes.   

The GSX-R600’s race-ready look is not manufactured; it is the true byproduct of decades of production roadracing dominance that continues to this day. For a rider considering a mid-size Supersport bike that is at home on the track or the street, there is only one choice: the Suzuki GSX-R600.

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  • Metallic Matte Black No. 2 / Glass Sparkle Black
  • Pearl Brilliant White / Metallic Triton Blue (GSX-R600Z model shown)
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Key Features

Three eye-catching paint schemes are available for the 2024 GSX-R600; Pearl Brilliant White / Metallic Matte Stellar Blue, or Pearl Brilliant White / Metallic Triton Blue schemes join the popular Metallic Matte Black No. 2 / Glass Sparkle Black paint combination.

The GSX-R600’s compact, fuel-injected, 599cc, four-cylinder engine delivers a rush of power from idle to redline. Located between the frame’s spars, the engine’s top end is canted forward to improve cylinder head charging for increased power output.

The Suzuki Drive Mode Selector (S-DMS) lets the rider adjust the engine’s power delivery to suit the riding conditions.

The twin-spar aluminum frame effectively connects the steering head with the swingarm pivot portion of the chassis in a way that balances light weight and strength. The engine is suspended below the frame to keep mass low and the wheelbase short to promote nimble handling.

The Showa Big Piston Front Fork (BPF) and remote reservoir rear shock absorber are fully adjustable to deliver exceptional handling.

Twin Brembo Monobloc, radially mounted front brake calipers grasp fully floating stainless steel brake rotors to deliver strong stopping power.

Engine Features

A compact 599cc, four-cylinder engine with a race-proven over-square bore/stroke ratio produces remarkably strong high rpm power delivery.

The energy-efficient engine employs forged pistons, shot-peened connecting rods, chrome-nitride-coated upper compression and oil control rings, and pentagonal ventilation holes to reduce frictional and mechanical losses.

Camshafts with aggressive valve-lift profiles were developed using proven MotoGP racing engine technology – the first time this method was applied to a production Suzuki.

Lightweight titanium alloy valves are controlled by single-coil valve springs to reduce valve train mass, reducing mechanical losses at high rpm.

Lightweight and durable forged pistons were designed using the same Finite Element Method (FEM) and fatigue analysis technology used for MotoGP racing engines.

Suzuki Dual Throttle Valve (SDTV) fuel injection uses eight fine-spray eight-hole injectors for improved fuel atomization, which contributes to more complete combustion.

An Engine Control Module (ECM) provides state-of-the-art engine management and has enhanced settings to suit the intake and exhaust systems, resulting in better fuel economy and linear throttle response.

Advanced, MotoGP-developed transistorized ignition control programming helps maintain more precise spark timing across the range of engine speed and temperature.

Suzuki Drive Mode Selector (S-DMS) offers push-button selection of two racing-developed engine control maps to suit road or track conditions and personal tastes.

Four-into-one stainless steel exhaust system with a titanium muffler is fitted with a Suzuki Exhaust Tuning (SET) valve that maximizes torque and improves throttle response, especially in the low- to mid-rpm range.

The close-ratio six-speed transmission features a taller first-gear ratio and shorter ratios for second, third, fourth, and sixth gears, making it easier for a racer to get a good start while improving straight-line acceleration and drive out of corners.

Race-proven back-torque-limiting clutch contributes to smoother downshifting and corner entry.

Chassis Features

Lightweight and compact twin-spar aluminum alloy frame is constructed of five cast sections to produce a balance of light weight and strength.

The frame is mated with a cast aluminum swingarm and multi-piece rear sub-frame that’s ready for racetrack use.

Race-developed, lightweight Showa Big Piston Front Fork (BPF) delivers superb feedback and consistent performance.

Single Showa rear shock absorber features externally adjustable rebound and compression damping, along with adjustable ride height.

Electronically controlled steering damper provides lighter steering at slower speeds and more damping force at racetrack and highway speeds.

Front brakes with fully floating 310mm discs are grasped by radial-mount, four-piston Brembo Monobloc calipers.

Three-spoke cast aluminum alloy wheels are shod with lightweight, high-grip front and rear tires for sharp handling.

Three-way adjustable foot pegs, adjustable shift lever and short fuel tank help compose a comfortable riding position that permits the rider movement required for performance riding.

Compact, lightweight instrument cluster with a built-in lap timer/stopwatch and programmable engine rpm indicators alert the rider to certain shift points.

Trim, simple, and lightweight bodywork creates an exciting, aerodynamic style that truly works well at speed.

Distinctive multi-reflector headlight with vertically stacked high- and low-beam halogen bulbs is centered between position lights on each side.

Bright, durable LED tail light, with clear lens.

The front turn signals are integrated into the rearview mirrors while the rear tail section houses the rear signals.

The lightweight instruments also include an analog tachometer and LCD readouts that show speed, odometer, dual trip meter, reserve trip meter, clock, coolant temperature/oil pressure indicator, S-DMS, and gear position indicators.

Attention to rider comfort and confidence includes a carefully shaped seat with a high-grip cover.

Additional Features

Stylized Suzuki logos and emblems on the fuel tank and the fork upper bracket denote the quality, sophistication, and performance legacy of the brand.

Optional single seat cowl can replace the passenger seat for an even more aggressive look or for use on solo rides or track days.

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  • Engine 599cc, 4-stroke, liquid-cooled, 4-cylinder, DOHC
  • Bore x Stroke 67.0 mm x 42.5 mm (2.638 in. x 1.673 in.)
  • Compression Ratio 12.9:1
  • Fuel System Fuel injection with SDTV
  • Starter Electric
  • Lubrication Wet sump
  • Clutch Wet, multi-plate type
  • Transmission 6-speed constant mesh
  • Final Drive Chain, RK525SMOZ8, 114 links
  • Suspension Front Inverted telescopic, coil spring, oil damped
  • Suspension Rear Link type, single shock, coil spring, oil damped
  • Brakes Front Brembo, 4-piston, twin disc
  • Brakes Rear Nissin, 1-piston, single disc
  • Tires Front 120/70ZR17M/C (58W), tubeless
  • Tires Rear 180/55ZR17M/C (73W), tubeless
  • Fuel Tank Capacity 17.0 L (4.5 US gal.) / 16.0 L (4.2 US gal.) CA model
  • Color Pearl Brilliant White/ Metallic Matte Stellar Blue, Metallic Matte Black No. 2 / Glass Sparkle Black, or Pearl Brilliant White/ Metallic Triton Blue
  • Ignition Electronic ignition (transistorized)
  • Spark Plug NGK CR9EIA-9 or DENSO IU27D
  • Headlight 12V 65W (H9 high-beam) and 12V 55W (H7 low-beam)
  • Tail Light LED
  • Overall Length 2030 mm (79.9 in.)
  • Overall Width 1135 mm (44.7 in.)
  • Wheelbase 1385 mm (54.5 in.)
  • Ground Clearance 130 mm (5.1 in.)
  • Seat Height 810 mm (31.9 in.)
  • Curb Weight 187 kg (412 lb.)
  • Warranty 12-month limited warranty
  • Extension Longer coverage periods with other benefits available through Suzuki Extended Protection (SEP)

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Been looking into a cruise control/throttle lock for an 06 GSXR 600. Does anyone use one of these or know someone who has? Starting to take longer rides. Looking at the NEP and Vista brands. Also I have no clue whether the bik is single or dual cable throttle. Also are the stock handlebars 7/8" or 1" outside diameter. Loking for new grips also. Driven, Spider, or Pro-Grips?  

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The throttle is 2 cable. I dont know the OD. I have pro-grips and recommend them.  

I have an NEP that'll fit, $20 shipped brand new.  

TheGeek

A big thick O-ring that's tight on your bar end and fat enough it won't go between the bar end and grip. Roll it up to the gap between your throttle and bar end to turn it on, roll it out half way on the bar end to trun it off. Works really well for under $2. Or you could get a set of throttlemeister bar ends for $80.  

Davenc

Dude, Just purchase a throttle rocker or cramp buster. I have both, the throttle rocker on my Valkrie and the cramp buster on the 06 750 gsxr. They will completely relieve your hand from cramping and tiring out. I love mine. They allow you to ride all day with out wrist fatigue. Both of them are less then $10. The stock bars are 7/8".  

I have a $20 Vista Crusie throttle lock that I had machined to exact tolerances (cost me $65) to fit the 2006 Suzuki GSX-R750 OEM throttle tube. Designed specifically to eliminate sideways throttle play and fit over that lip that holds the end of the grip on the tube. Looks an OEM piece of equipment when installed and works like a charm. Requires drilling a small hole into the bottom of the switch housing for the mounting screw . Can be mounted and/or removed in less than 10 seconds (I always took it off for trackdays). I have since upgraded to the R1 throttle tube, thus it no longer works on my bike. If anyone is interested, I'll sell it for what I have in it, $85 shipped.  

chiefgix

Look into throttlemeister, imo they are well worth the money.  

Throttlemeisters are 130 some bucks now  

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Hi, is anyone having trouble with using cruise control once travelling 60mph, mine blinks twice and goes off, works fine if I switch on before leaving home but if I try for the first time that day whilst at that speed it doesn’t work?  

BEARR

Weird. What's unique about 60 mph? Does this not happen at other speeds? Why not just turn on CC when you start bike and leave activated, setting speed as needed? Also...does the GT's cruise control disengage with brake use, clutch use and/or throttle closing?  

Not just 60, 50 and 70……… I can just turn on yes but shouldn’t have to really….. disengages with all three mentioned. I do love the bike but the CC thing is really grinding me, it’s not something you should be thinking of when starting up the bike as you don’t plan your day/ journey around using the CC  

roy826

On my 2020 Yamaha Tracer 900 GT which has factory CC there was a recall recently for the CC light blinking. The problem was a faulty front brake light switch and it was confusing the system somehow. Mine never had the issue but I did have the switch replaced under the recall. Maybe the same thing is happening or similar on the Suzuki system.  

By reporting the fault to the dealer, this problem should get input to Suzuki, and the sooner the better, so Suzuki can issue a model-wide fix if the fault is in the software or hardware.  

Definitely report it to them and let us know. It’s too new and there’s like maybe 50 in circulation not enough to see many reports on stuff yet but I imagine the reviewers would of noticed it if wide spread  

Probably not relevant, but are you doing anything else when the CC disengages, such as pulling clutch, touching brake lever, etc.? Weird that it only happens when you engage CC while at speed. Wish I had the owner manual to see how Suzuki's CC works, vs my BMW's.  

Beckstar

Also ensure you're not rolling forward on the throttle. Apparently rolling forward on the throttle disengages the cruise control. It's a function that's supposed to remove the need to touch the front brake to disengage CC. I don't know exactly how that works; I've only read/heard it. I presume it must have a position that's further forward than the normal spring return throttle-off position.  

That's how CC works on my BMW RR...cruise control can be disengaged by rolling off throttle to the stop, pulling the clutch or using the brakes.  

hmm I ran across this issue on a youtube video yesterday. I hope I do not get one with this issue. The CC on my 2020 Yamaha Tracer works darn good and very reliable plus easy to use.  

Post a link?  

Also the QS is not adjustable like my RR 1000 is. Just on or off on the GSXS.  

Couldn't see any comments section. Also, I'm a 1000 RR owner...what adjustability are you talking about regarding QS? My RR is on all the time.  

DV8ERS

Hey Bikemaddan, thought of you earlier today. I have my GT 5 days now. Picked it up Saturday, rode home, all good. Cruise control worked a treat. Went out today for a quick blat. Turned on the CC on the motorway, worked fine. Got off the motorway, switched it off at the button. Did some suburban streets and back onto the motorway. Bike had not been turned off since leaving home. Anyways, back on the motorway, press the CC, flashes 3 times, goes off. I tried a few random things, she was like nah, not interested. So I dont know if it has anything to do with the mileage and the issue starts, or what exactly, but my km's are now at 100. I'll be passing on this info to my Suzuki dealership here in Australia. Should just be a software update I'm sure. Also, my bike feels a bit vibey at 110kmh and 120kmh. Even some lower speeds in 4th. Do you have the same issue?  

Geoff C

I would think you are correct with the Cruise Control issue being software. If the vibration continues I would have them check the Balance first and also how the front wheel was removed and replaced, I am no expert but if it was the from the wheel was not sitting correctly on the axel and lower forks that can have an effect similar to what you are saying. I am sure one of our members was having a similar issue and checked 3 things they were how the wheel was mounted, then the callipers were straight or that should be sitting even and I can not for the life of me think or the 3rd one. As I said I am no expert and this could be part or all of the vibration. O the last thing I would also check to see is if the tyre has been seated correctly on the wheel. that can be done just by checking if the bead line on the tyre's sidewall is even to the wheel.  

Reczilla just did 300 miles of testing and he mentioned cc being absolutely perfect everytime. I am really curious what could be a cause or if there’s any situation where it feels to turn off ie. If it detects wheel slippage does it turn off?  

I wonder about the CC setup, with the "ON" button on one switchgear, and the "SET" button on the opposite handlebar switchgear...possibly a clue?  

Do you have to turn it on everytime, Ie. You have cruise set, and you hit brake, bike slows down. do you then have to hit “on” then “set again?” Or just hit set  

FreePenguiny said: Do you have to turn it on everytime, Ie. You have cruise set, and you hit brake, bike slows down. do you then have to hit “on” then “set again?” Or just hit set Click to expand...

Nice I was worried you have to hit on them set every single time you disengaged it for one reason or another worrying motorcycle people need extra precautions legally  

This CC issue seems to be a "whack-a-mole" thing. Surprised Suzuki isn't all over this, and hasn't issued any service directive to dealers. Important to make sure this isn't widespread, or the model will have a black eye.  

buffguy

I have also had quite a few issues with the cruise control. Sometimes I can ride all day 300-500 miles with no issues and other days it might shut off several times. Bike has been to dealer for this as well as the hot start "knock" and they have nothing to say about the cruise control. With the much more bothersome knock however, they assure me that their test fleet bikes do the same thing and not to be worried. I have sent them videos of the noise and it really really bothers me! When the cruise control shuts off while riding, I usually pull in the clutch, turn of the key, turn it back on and im back in business without having to pull off of the road.  

What if it’s something to do with break in? maybe it doesn’t want it to be fully used til after certain mileage the entire time. madmike said his fixed itself and works great now with nothing needed but he rode it more  

FreePenguiny said: What if it’s something to do with break in? maybe it doesn’t want it to be fully used til after certain mileage the entire time. madmike said his fixed itself and works great now with nothing needed but he rode it more Click to expand...

I wonder if it doesnt really want someone to ride with CC on entire time before the 450 mile mark. makes sense, all the demos are broken in so if there was a limiter it would be off. should be addressed in manual though.  

thats actually exactly what im thinking, all the demo bikes are already broken in, the only people who complained was the very first people who had them, like one or two commenters mentioned it I thunk I read once. but those same bikes had miles on them afterwards for future reviewers so works perfect id totally put this in the system to prevent someone riding 600miles from the first go at 1 speed, and then limiting warranty work from people not seating the rings right. under load, varying gears and speeds, so limit the amount of CC use. now, it should be mentioned, id actually prefer suzuki straight say, we limit the use of cc for the first few hundred miles or disabled entirely til ie 300miles or something so people arent confused and think bikes broken.  

Yes, that would make sense, and for that reason I'm not totally convinced that's what's going on...but it has a logic to it. In any case, I am waiting not so patiently to experience this first-hand.  

I'll report back once I've got a few more kms /miles put on. It's currently at 350kms. So once it's done a 1000kms and had its first service, I'll test it some more.  

RebelBlueIdiot

Reviving this thread since I am having the same CC issue. Don’t think it’s a breakin period related thing. Mine has worked great from day one of getting the bike. Rode to my dealer this morning for the 600 mile service. I hit the highway, hit the CC and it wouldn’t turn on. It would just flash a couple of times. Dealer is running diagnostics and will check it out. So I should have an explanation in a couple of hours once they’re done with the service.  

Mine does that from time to time. Reset with key on/off and let the dash completely boot up seems to solve the issue.  

Dealer couldn’t replicate and there weren’t any codes. So, they dunno. Seems to working again now, so what you suggested roy seems to be the thing to do for now  

Symmetry

I'm about to ride 330 mostly highway miles on cruise control... I'll post up if I have any problems with it.  

I actually rode 432 miles but probably 330 of them were using cruise. I had no problems with it, though I do feel that it could use a bit more refinement. It's not too bad though, and 1000x better than no cruise!  

I’ve checked mine for codes twice. And nothing. So it’s a boot up glitch in the software I think. Can’t prove that but I do let mine come all the way up before starting.  

Yamaha had issues with the front brake switch on their bikes. One being the Tracer 900 GT I had which never did this but was replaced under the recall that was issued finally after years of issues with it on many other bike models from Yamaha. I will say this I liked the Yamaha cruise control function better than the Suzuki setup. It was much smoother in its operation of up and down and resume and it showed the SET speed on the dash. Plus it had all the buttons on one side of the bar unlike the Suzuki setup with SET on the right bar which is stupid imo.  

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Best of Moscow by high speed train

By shuguley , February 15, 2014 in Regent Seven Seas Cruises

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Sure would appreciate someone who has taken "Best of Moscow by high speed train" from St. Petersburg could please share their impressions of this shore excursion. From the description this sounds like a very long day.

Wondering how the 4 hour train trip was in terms of accommodations, etc. Also what time did you leave the ship and what time at night did you return? Were both legs of the trip on the high speed rail (I read that slower trains also travel the same tracks)?

My wife and I are considering this excursion. We thought that if we are making all the effort to go to Russia then how could we pass up going to Moscow, walking in Red Square, seeing St. Basil, etc.

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If you are considering this on the 2015 June Baltic cruise on Voyager; my suggestion is don't. There is so much to do in St. Petersburg and although a train is one of my favorite ways to travel the time would be far better spent in St. P.

Thanks for the advice. Yes, this would be on the Voyager during the 2015 season but not yet sure exactly which cruise.

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We did the Moscow excursion "on a different luxury line", but from your brief description it sounds very much like the same trip, so I will operate on that assumption. It is a VERY long day! We left the ship at 5:30 AM and returned at 12:30 AM. The highspeed train trip is comfortable, and while they call it "Business Class" it does not compare well to the equivalent class on say Rail Europe. When we did it in 2011, we did have highspeed both ways, and the trip back seemed much longer as the adrenaline and excitement had worn off!:D

Moscow itself is not that terribly different from any other big city in the world, but this Cold War kid never thought he would ever stand in Red Square, never mind walk the grounds of The Kremlin, or tour The Kremlin Palace, or see (but not visit) Lenin's Tomb, or visit The Armoury. But he did, and he loved every minute of it! Yes, it is a long day, and you barely scratch a scratch on the surface, but it is worth it. There is a tremendous amount to see in St. Petersburg, but every Baltic cruise goes to St. Petersburg, so you can go back if you choose to. Not every cruiseline offers you the chance to see Moscow.

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I have not personally done this tour, but our last time in St Petersburg, the private guide that we hired for a day was leading the regent tour to Moscow on the high speed train the next day. He said it was way better than the previous alternative, which was flying to Moscow and back. He said that you actually got to Moscow faster because you didn't have to deal with airline checkin etc. it did seem like a very long day to me, and there is so much to see and do in st. Petersburg that I didn't consider doing it.

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We toured to Moscow from St. Petersburg via the hi-speed SAPSAN train last September, from a Baltic cruise on the Oceania Marina. You need to have a two-night, three day port call in St. Petersburg to take this tour because the tour typically leaves the ship around 5:00 - 5:30 AM and doesn't return until after midnight the next day. We didn't take the ship's tour; we made private arrangements with TravelAllRussia for three days of touring, the first and third days in St. Petersburg and the second day the tour to Moscow by train. Our cost for the private tour for three days was about the same as what the ship charged for the excursion to Moscow alone. There are a number of private tour agencies that operate in St. Petersburg and offer the Moscow train tours; we would strongly recommend them over the ship's tours.

All three days had private guides with car and driver. The second day, the driver picked us up at the ship and took us to the train, but we were alone on the train, and met in Moscow by the guide on the station platform. After our tour and dinner, we were brought back to the train and after the return train trip met by the driver and taken back to the ship. Because you are alone on the train you must have your own Russian visas.

If this is your first visit to St. Petersburg, I would agree there is much more to see there. We found Moscow somewhat a disappointment, particularly Red Square. The Kremlin and the cathedral in Red Square were also worth seeing. But the best thing we saw was the Moscow subway! I worked for the Washington Metro system back in the 1980s as it grew from 40 to 80 miles and although I was in the computer area, I learned a lot about the challenges of running a subway system. We used the Moscow system to get across the city from where we had dinner to the train station, and I was amazed at the cleanliness', speed of operation, the short headways maintained, and the courtesy of everyone involved. A very impressive experience!

We had been to St. Petersburg before, and so had the time to take a day and go to Moscow. Also, I really like trains, and the SAPSAN is a German train set running on Russian rails. Seats are like first class domestic air, spacious but not too plush or comfortable, but with enough room. Not too much recline, and almost 8 hours on the train in two shots is a lot for an old man. They come through and sell drinks, candy, etc. but the sellers don't speak English and no one around us helped, so we had just poor coffee once coming, and brought stuff with us for the trip back. Not too much to see from the train either, particularly on the return when it is night the whole way.

If you decide to go, take a private tour and avoid the overly expensive ship's tour. I'm glad we did it, but wouldn't bother to repeat the tour; we've seen Moscow.

Thanks so much to all of you for the thorough and thought insight. Yhe information you have provided is most helpful.

countflorida: Your detailed post is very helpful. We are not quite ready for a Baltic cruise but should do so within a year. Time enough to do our pre travel research, bookings and visa gathering.:) Thank you!

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Sure would appreciate someone who has taken "Best of Moscow by high speed train" from St. Petersburg could please share their impressions of this shore excursion. From the description this sounds like a very long day.   Wondering how the 4 hour train trip was in terms of accommodations, etc. Also what time did you leave the ship and what time at night did you return? Were both legs of the trip on the high speed rail (I read that slower trains also travel the same tracks)?   My wife and I are considering this excursion. We thought that if we are making all the effort to go to Russia then how could we pass up going to Moscow, walking in Red Square, seeing St. Basil, etc.

I did this on Seabourn. IMO DONT. Take Aeroflop (er Aeroflot). The train has non folding seats where you are literally knee to knee with your fellow passenger (facing each other). Further they don't believe in air conditioning. It's also the worlds slowed bullet train. I think I would have found more enjoyment wandering around the St. Petersburg and Moscow airports.

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This is a little off topic,, however we had planned a river cruise in Russia but decided we would rather stay on land and have booked about two weeks with Travel-All-Russia using the private guide and driver. I'm curious as to how you found them as a tour company.

The guides they provided were fine. We had a different guide each of the days in St. Petersburg, but both were flexible, pleasant, knowledgeable and spoke English very well, as did the guide in Moscow, incidentally. She was a bit aloof, distant, not too friendly, but otherwise fine. In fact, she was the one who suggested taking the Metro, which unexpectedly became one of the highlights of the Moscow excursion. If I have a complaint with AllTravelRussia, it is with their plan and its execution (more later).

I had requested emphasis on World War II (in Russia, the Great Patriotic War) sites and info. In scheduling us, they weren't careful about dates and a couple of the sites we wanted to see were scheduled on the third day, after we'd been to Moscow. But both sites were closed that day of the week, and that info was readily available, right on web sites describing them. Also, the included meals (lunches in St. Pete, dinner in Moscow) were not what we asked for: light meals with some choices, so we could avoid things we didn't like and choose things we did like. My request was ignored; we were given full Russian meals with a fixed menu, no choice. On the first day, a fish dish was the entre, but I am allergic to fish. Fortunately, I had the e-mail I'd sent with me and showed it to the guide, and she was able to change my entre to chicken, which was very good actually. But we didn't want a 3-4 course lunches or dinner (in Moscow). We had the guide drop the lunch the third day, although we never got any credit or refund. But, particularly in contrast to the ship's tours, the prices were so reasonable we didn't worry too much about it.

The people who were on the ship's tour to Moscow saw us boarding the same train for which they were forced to queue up and wait on the way back, and asked us what we had done. I was candid and open so they were not happy when I explained what we had arranged and particularly what it had cost. Also, when we returned to the ship, we found they had laid on a late supper for those who had gone to Moscow, so up we went and had something. Well, it turns out the late supper was supposed to be just for those on the ship's tour, but we and others on 'independent' tours, there were a dozen or more of us, crashed the party, actually got there first, and they didn't realize it until the larger group arrived and there weren't enough tables/places set. By that time, the 'independents' had all gotten served and were eating; what could they do?

A couple from the larger group sat down with us and asked us about our tour, and they were the ones I told about our arrangement and its cost. They turned to others who’d been with them and announced the details, loudly enough so the whole room heard, which started a lot of bitching and complaining. I gathered they weren't very happy with the ship's tour to begin with, and this was the straw that broke the camel's back. We finished up and beat it out of there, but overheard later that one of the excursion staff came to check on something and ran into a real mess. I caught a cold on the trip, which forced me to bed the second day following in Tallinn, so by the time we reappeared we heard about the contretemps' but apparently no one recalled who started it, thankfully.

Because of what happened to us, I would probably not use AllTravelRussia if I were to go again, or if I did, I would be sure to get confirmation of every detail of the tour. They do have good reviews generally, and we were certainly helped by their visa department and liked the guides and drivers. Their weakness, I say now with full 20:20 hindsight, is that once the sales person who plans the tour, sells it to you and collects your money, he (or she) transfers the plan to their Russia office for implementation; there is no follow-up to make sure it gets done right. And that is where our problems arose; we paid for a custom tour but got a standard package with a few destinations switched, and no one checked them out, even to see when they were open the day we were scheduled to go. If you check every detail that’s important to you, it should be OK, but that’s a hell of a way to have to do business, in my opinion.

Thank you for the 20/20 hindsight observation on your Russian tour operator, and better priced than the ship's excursion cost.

Thanks very much for the feedback.

We had the same experience as you so far as price. We originally booked a Viking Cruise but, hearing some things about the river cruises that made us unhappy, looked into other options. T-A-R cost the same or less than a cruise and had us in hotels for 11 days. We opted for the private tour. They have three tour levels, based on hotels. We originally opted for the four star as it did not cost much more than the three star hotels. Finally we decided to throw it all in and upgraded to five star. In Moscow we will be at the newly opened Kempinsky which is two blocks from Red Square. In St. Petersburg it is the Grand Hotel Europe, one of the most vaunted luxury hotels in Russia. Location is important for us as the tours use up only part of the day so being in the center of everything for our independent touring is important. As with many other cities, the less you pay, the farther out of the center of town you are.

We have been working with our salesman in D.C. and he seems to get back to us with the changes we want. He recently returned from Russia so is up on everything. When I asked they said they paid the full TA commission if I wanted so I got my usual TA on board so he is watching our back and giving us that extra level of comfort. He also set up our air, which I know pays him little or nothing, and got us business class for much less than T-A-R wanted for economy, though it took working for a while with a consolidator. He's happy to get his 10 percent on this trip without having booked it. He also took care of the trip insurance. We've been doing a lot of research on the CC sister site Trip Advisor and will write a report there. We will, I guess, become a source of info for CC members after having spent 5 days in Moscow and 6 in SP.

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Anybody considering a day trip to Moscow from St. Petersburg on the Sapsan may want to look at our travelogue filled with pictures.

http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=1927687

greygypsy

Very informative. Thanks dor sharing. Jeff

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Is a GSXR-600 worth it in 2022?

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Is a brand new gsxr600 worth it in 2022 for $11,500 when a 2022 Yamaha R7 is cheaper? I am looking to buy a middleweight sportsbike and ive always been a fan of suzukis but looking at the specs and features and the fact that the gsxr600 hasnt been updated since 2011 i am wondering if its worth it? What does the gsxr600 do better than a r7?  

Never drove one... don't know. But doesn't the R7 make significantly less horsepower? Like 30hp less? The GSXR is a proven package and if you like tinkering and have some money to spend, you can make it handle as well as you can ride.  

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Yes but it also has more torque which is where it shines. Handling no comfort more than an R6 yes but not better than a Zuki. get a 750 from 11’-16’ and call it a day. If you know your bike you don’t need TCS. The throttle selection feature is cool but again not needed.  

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While the GSX-R600 is an older bike, the motor produces over 40 more horsepower than a Yamaha R7. Also because the current generation GSXR is old, there is an abundance of parts available for it. There's also a lot of compatible parts from different models like the GSX-R750. The GSX-R600 has an inline 4 engine and the Yamaha has a parallel twin. The parallel twin should be easier and cheaper to maintain because you have 2 less spark plugs, fuel injectors, etc. to worry about. Valve adjustments should be cheaper on the Yamaha too because of less valves. The R7 also comes standard with ABS while the GSXR does not. In my area, R7's command a premium on secondhand marketplaces whereas GSXR600's not so much. I don't have either so you probably want to try them yourself and see which one you like more. If I were trying to decide between the two and I wanted a go everywhere, commuter, fun bike, I'd get the R7. I like the lower complexity of parallel twin, they look awesome, ABS is great when riding in the city, cheaper insurance, and I'd be less likely to get in trouble with the law. If I wanted a fast canyon carving/track bike, I'd get a used but good condition GSXR. As long as you're buying 2011+ then your getting the latest generation bike. There's plenty of deals to be had in GSXR territory but not so much in R7 land.  

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bropane said: While the GSX-R600 is an older bike, the motor produces over 40 more horsepower than a Yamaha R7. Also because the current generation GSXR is old, there is an abundance of parts available for it. There's also a lot of compatible parts from different models like the GSX-R750. The GSX-R600 has an inline 4 engine and the Yamaha has a parallel twin. The parallel twin should be easier and cheaper to maintain because you have 2 less spark plugs, fuel injectors, etc. to worry about. Valve adjustments should be cheaper on the Yamaha too because of less valves. The R7 also comes standard with ABS while the GSXR does not. In my area, R7's command a premium on secondhand marketplaces whereas GSXR600's not so much. I don't have either so you probably want to try them yourself and see which one you like more. If I were trying to decide between the two and I wanted a go everywhere, commuter, fun bike, I'd get the R7. I like the lower complexity of parallel twin, they look awesome, ABS is great when riding in the city, cheaper insurance, and I'd be less likely to get in trouble with the law. If I wanted a fast canyon carving/track bike, I'd get a used but good condition GSXR. As long as you're buying 2011+ then your getting the latest generation bike. There's plenty of deals to be had in GSXR territory but not so much in R7 land. baldi's basics Click to expand...

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The others pretty well covered it, but it really depends on what you're going to actually do with the bike as opposed to what might seem like a neat idea. Sportbike ergonomics (riding position) are not ideal for riding around town, and downright awful for long distance riding. But on a racetrack there's nothing better. In fact, there's basically nothing about sport bikes that is ideal for riding around town or long distance riding, from the power delivery to the brakes, even the handling isn't nearly as good because it is optimized for racetrack performance which is very different from regular riding. The R7 is basically a budget bike with some fairings bolted on. That may sound bad, but it's really not. The handlebars (or clipons) are above the triple clamps, so you aren't always stuck in the racer crouch. The throttle and brakes are not as overwhelming, which means a new rider won't crash due to inexperienced control inputs. The handling isn't as twitchy, so the bike is more stable. All that said, the R7 also makes a fantastic track bike, likeunto the Suzuki SV650. Seriously, I've been passed by folks riding Ninja 400s at the track. It's funny (after I get over the deeply humiliating shame) when someone riding a budget bike with 100 less horsepower than mine passes me in the corners.  

Well for someone who knows what a true R7 is. F@ck that bike over an R6. Now that I’ve gotten that out the way. Other than keeping a bit of history for when 600’s are no more. A brand new 6 or 750 at that price no way. Maybe if it came with a gps screen and cruise control etc but there are way to many well taken 6’s an 750’s to have to buy new. Now a liter bike at that price. Hell yes. But those are near 20 grand. I wouldn’t even pay that for an Italian bred muchless the Big 4. Don’t spend more than 8 on a middle weight or 12 grand on a liter.  

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